here's what you posted :
'the current ones out there running and or built can be corrected at skater with the assistance of JBS Racing and our resources.'
that's a misleading statement. jeff took the boat to skater and they fixed it. what did your assistance consist of? nothing except jeff signing a check!!
my point was that for the last several years ever since jeff bought the boat, outside of aruda and his employees, jeff has had you supposedly looking out for his interests and the boat. or at least thats what you should have been doing. you seem to be front man in his operation. you've been involved since day one with jeff on this adventure and now 3 plus yrs later your just realizing what the some of the problems are? if this was real racing such as nascar or some other true professional motorsports team you and who ever was jeff's crew cheif would be long gone.
so to be positive, here is some advice, hire someone like JT that will go threw the boat with a fine tooth comb. make any corrections before jeff hurts him self or others.
as for skater, i have nothing negative to say about them. but you guys try to make it sound like skater did this out of the kindness of his heart. skater has got plenty of his his own boats in for repairs, so i doubt skater would bump those guys in favor of you and then fix it cause he like you???? and for free
as for Cosker. he offered to fix the problem at his costs, but it was cheaper to have skater do it. the logistics make sense. since then cosker has issued statements concerning the problems with both boats which seems to explain the problems. but you guys are now bashing mystic, but yet have made NO real factual statements with why it happened or what you did to correct the problem. IMO you have NO understanding of the high end composites and the actaul work involved in building one. so, outside the issues cosker addressed please explain the rest of your greivances and what should be done to correct them.
facts???...cosker's boats fall apart and he is unable to fix them correctly.
is skater fixing the bottom to look like the mystic??...NO. if the boat runs like crap it's no ones fault but mine!
till then. we will just have to see.
again, have you talked with peter? you seem to know him? if u r a wash-down boy u will get nothing. but if your close like you are in the know, like you say you are? he's going to tell you what we are about.
"you've been involved since day one with jeff on this adventure and now 3 plus yrs later your just realizing what the some of the problems are?"....I DID! as did my crew cheif!!!! MY JOB FOR # YEARS WAS TO MOVE STICKS...NOT building, rigging, testing. throttling, and maintaining like i did with all of the donzi's and the SC. arruda has been trying to get rid of me since the day i showed up! let us all know the day you spend millions with someone and try and walk before your project is completed. AGAIN...how long did it take geico and haggin to part ways??????
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5 mil? Thats a lot of turbines and rigging.
i don't know the exact figures of what money went where and when. i think even jeff has lost track. it is a $hit ton tho!
Holy s**t! Just think what would be said if those guys bought a plywood Cougar back in the late 70's, early 80's. At one point, the Coast Guard was considering fining us for littering. Point is, in those days, you could buy a glass or aluminum cat that was not competitive, or a lightweight wooden one that was fast and fragile. I guess the combatants were more understanding in the "golden days".
Skaterdave-you really are a ****ing idiot.you don't have a single fact to post.I'm sure you sit around trying to blow yourself.
Peter did put our project ahead of his own because he does like us and he wants to see us succeed.it wasn't free-but it was incredibly reasonable,done right,and done on time.there is no way anyone could possibly say anything bad about what Peter has done.
Arruda was acting crew chief-he failed miserably and should never even be around a boat-ever.I feel sorry for anyone who deals with him-they are trapped.like Arruda told me-"I have no other option"-maybe he should be a comedian.
Anyway Skaterdave-can't wait for your next post
I certainly don't know all of the facts with this debate but would like to say that I have owned all three of the most popular catamaran models built in the US. Each one of them have their advantages and disadvantages.
In addition, I want to go on record as stating that I am thankful for all three of the business owners, John Cosker, Peter Hledin and Randy Scism, for producing such awesome boats. Regardless of your manufacturer preference, do you realize how fortunate we are to have these guys building boats for us right here in the good ole USA?
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