It is not renewable at all. Sure you can re-grow corn but, it takes more energy to convert it to power than the out come yields. That is a depleting energy source. Engineering constantly shows that the best solution is the most direct especially with energy and its consumption. You would be totally amazed at how much energy is lost in a energy analysis of an electric car.
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Originally Posted by ckin62
(Post 3269746)
It is not renewable at all. Sure you can re-grow corn but, it takes more energy to convert it to power than the out come yields. That is a depleting energy source. Engineering constantly shows that the best solution is the most direct especially with energy and its consumption. You would be totally amazed at how much energy is lost in a energy analysis of an electric car.
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3269683)
Really? I must have missed the part where ethanol is being pulled from the market, and/or the farm subsidies are terminated.
In fact the current "flavor of the week" is the addition of Urea (Cow urine) to diesel engines starting this year to "clean up" the environment. Anybody sense another farm subsidy in the middle of all this? I hate politicians. |
Wow, Al Gore let politics win out over science? I for one am shocked. What's next? Will we find out that Global Warming is a sham? Will we find out that spending money we don't have is bad for the economy? Will we find out that bacon is actually good for you?
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Unfortunately, the MANDATED amount of ethanol will increase next year.
Even if tax subsidies are eliminated in the new budget (remains to be seen), it will take a whole new law to eliminate the mandate. What are to odds of that happening, given all the other burning issues for the new congress? I'll bet we're stuck with this $hit for a long tome. |
Corn is either food, or it's fuel. It can't be both, we can't be trusted. I'm waiting for the next Enron come in and lean us over the counter if we don't wise up soon.
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Relax. Don't panic. Science is coming.
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Originally Posted by CigDaze
(Post 3269662)
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That means that: E10 lowers mileage by 3.4%, and E15 lowers mileage by 5.1% ...
Originally Posted by Mentalpause
(Post 3269689)
In my F150 E10 lowers the mileage by closer to 10%. Luckily I can buy non ethanol at FS, like Knot said. And when I am in Missouri most of the 87 octane is still non ethanol.
I'd say E10 would lower the mileage by 3.4% in a flex fuel vehicle that is designed to accommodate for the fuel blend. In that situation it isn't so bad because it should make a bit more power too. But... in vehicles that are not flex fuel the engine computer really doesn't know exactly what is going on, what exact blend to use so it does the best it can. that is where you get hosed. |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 3269767)
It kills the mileage in my vehicles too. easily 10%, if not more.
I'd say E10 would lower the mileage by 3.4% in a flex fuel vehicle that is designed to accommodate for the fuel blend. In that situation it isn't so bad because it should make a bit more power too. But... in vehicles that are not flex fuel the engine computer really doesn't know exactly what is going on, what exact blend to use so it does the best it can. that is where you get hosed. |
Originally Posted by Wobble
(Post 3269756)
I believe that Urea or carbamide used for emissions purposes is synthetic.
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