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Catmando 12-12-2010 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3270673)
The key here will be what he comes up with that is going to be the next thing to save the world. He is trying to make his fortune on this stuff so if nothing else is working he will be touting the next great "Threat to Mankind and the Earth!!!!!!!" in order to maintain his power and income. Listen not to the Goracle, it deceives.....

All he's doing is repeating what 99.99999% of climate scientists are saying, but out in public. He takes the heat and he can damn sure stand up to it. I admire that man.

Griff 12-12-2010 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3269689)
In my F150 E10 lowers the mileage by closer to 10%. Luckily I can buy non ethanol at FS, like Knot said. And when I am in Missouri most of the 87 octane is still non ethanol.

Are you sure about that???? Ethanol(E10) is not labeled on the pumps in MO, at least not in St Joe, KC, Sedalia or at LOTO. That is why a few land stations at LOTO actually advertise no ethanol 91 Octane.

blownjet 468 12-12-2010 11:46 AM

have you looked into E85 and it's performance usage? it is
rapidly becoming the rage in smaller lake/race/perf/ blown
applications! it seems to work better than methanol, is cheaper than race fuel-even when you use 50%more, the octane is there, and you don't need an intercooler!!:evilb:
I'm no way arguing with you guys when it comes to the govt.
issues, and the cost to make it, but have any of you recalibrated , and tried it as a race fuel alternative? it seems
that everyone who has ,swears by it!:drink:

Mentalpause 12-12-2010 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3272525)
Are you sure about that???? Ethanol(E10) is not labeled on the pumps in MO, at least not in St Joe, KC, Sedalia or at LOTO. That is why a few land stations at LOTO actually advertise no ethanol 91 Octane.

Stations I use do list it on each pump. They have their 87 and 93 as non ethanol. 89 is priced the same as 87 and is listed as 10%. There are other stations that have ethanol in their 87 but I try to stay away from them.

Catmando 12-12-2010 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3272832)
Stations I use do list it on each pump. They have their 87 and 93 as non ethanol. 89 is priced the same as 87 and is listed as 10%. There are other stations that have ethanol in their 87 but I try to stay away from them.

Same here. I have to use 89 in my 300 Hemi and I have finally convinced my wife to use it in her van. She says she's getting better gas mileage now. :coolcowboy:

f_inscreenname 12-12-2010 12:17 PM

What good does it do now that I took the 2 fiberglass tanks out of the race boat (that never had a gallon of gas in them) and replaced them with smaller ones.

vette131 12-12-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3272522)
All he's doing is repeating what 99.99999% of climate scientists are saying, but out in public. He takes the heat and he can damn sure stand up to it. I admire that man.

wrong huge numbers of scientists are calling it a hoax. Al Gore is a typical liberal hypocrite, he owns multiple huge homes & fly's around in his jet & drives suv's. They tell us to cut back to save the planet from a bogus crisis while the live like rock stars.

Catmando 12-12-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by vette131 (Post 3272863)
wrong huge numbers of scientists are calling it a hoax. Al Gore is a typical liberal hypocrite, he owns multiple huge homes & fly's around in his jet & drives suv's. They tell us to cut back to save the planet from a bogus crisis while the live like rock stars.

Huge numbers, seriously??? Have a link?

vette131 12-12-2010 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3272881)
Huge numbers, seriously??? Have a link?

try these just to start, the info is all over but you wont find it on the daily kook.

http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.123

http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

http://globalwarminghoax.wordpress.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ

http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807

http://www.moonbattery.com/arch

ducktail 01-21-2012 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Payton (Post 3270452)
I think the technology has advanced since your numbers came out. They currently get 2.7 gal of ethanol out of a bushel of corn with new technology to move that to 3 to 1. ( http://biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/20...evenue-upside/ ). Aother thing that a lot of people forget is that the process is realy only using the byproduct of feeding corn to cattle.
After making ethanol with a bushel oc corn, what you have left is 2/3 the weight of that bushel in DDGs, dried distillers grain. That can be feed directly to cattle.
I've run e10 in all my vehicles ( by choice) since the early 80s. Except the diesels, they get B20.

I do think straight gas should be available where there is a need for it.

I am also glad to hear I once again disagree with Al Gore.

And here we are again. I guess you disagree with "Ethanol a Mistake" stated by Al Gore and as a citizen of a free country :party-smiley-004: you are also allowed to utter publicly that you disagree.
I would like to say that I belong to the energy specialists mentioned in a new article in the US journal Science. I was always convinced that seaweed can be used for fuel, see my funny meant post earlier, but could not fund my research as perfectly as the Bio Architecture Lab, Berkeley, makes me a bit sad. I found the article mentioned in the newspaper The Province, Kanada and will now try to find links to the content. Also in case (brown seaweed) of this source for fuel the input of energy needed to degrade sugar (alginate) to ethanol is the key to the reliability of the future impact.


http://www.ba-lab.com/

http://www.ba-lab.com/pdf/BALScience.pdf

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/...biofuel-algae/

http://www.ba-lab.com/news.php
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