its funny...i posted a thread on this topic knocking OSO for making this a paysite forum (to become a "full fledged" member) and it gets moved to a section that no one reads...but
when someone posts a thread on this topic agreeing with OSO, it stays in the section with most visibility...hmmmm
link for those who dont beleive me...
My original question had nothing to do with IB. So none of this is agreeing or disagreeing with them.
Their pay structure or reasons for charging isnt part of the conversation.
Its simply asking why some decide to pay and others dont.
And for the most part, there are 8 or 9 replies for each .
Base usage free.
If someone wants to spend more $$ for something nominally better....their choice. ( Better being more PM space etc.)
BTW , thats only my opinion. There were 3 other people involved who could have made a different decision.
Probably would have been a decision of the volunteer board which would have been left in place.
People on some of the boards think that because of what boat you run, it shows what your "status" is in life. I had a guy on one board that felt like he was more of a boat guy than me cause he had a 38' offshore V-bottom. I told him there's a reason I specifically looked for a perfect 20 Outlaw for 6 months and invited him to come out to my closest local lake ( Lake Lou Yaeger ) with his boat cause everyone would laugh at him. Edit: 8 mile long lake but the north 3 miles are silted in and less than 4ft deep
Last edited by Plowtownmissile; 12-15-2010 at 07:14 PM.
First of all, I fail to see why you are so upset. Why are you surprised at my comments. I fail to see what is so surprising about them. It's my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Being an advertiser has absolutely NOTHING to do with my opinion.
I NEVER said that paying makes a member an expert. What I said is that there are many experts here. Isn't their knowledge worth something? I seriouisly doubt you will find this level of boating expertise anywhere else. Is that not worth something? If bad advice happened to be posted, it would be corrected in very short order. Would that be the case elsewhere? Maybe, maybe not. It has nothing to do with paying. This site simply has a wealth of knowledge. This isn't the only one, but I would bet it has the highest concentration of knowlegable people in this field. It has nothing to do with paying. It is what it is. Is that worth anything to you? Maybe, maybe not. If you don't think it is, then don't become a member. Boatfreaks is an awesome site that I also advertise on. It is completely free.
You're right.....my ROI does not concern you. I'm sure no one really cares what my ROI is.The point I was trying to make was that just advertising and having a little add on the side of the page does not just bring people beating the door down. The return comes from spending hours online helping guys, whether they have an 80' Nortech or a rowboat. They appreciate the help and some show their appreciation by becoming a customer. Again, that is not why I do it. I do it because I want to and enjoy doing it. I had a bunch of help growing up when I couldn't afford to pay someone. I know what it's like. Which brings us to the last point you attempted to make. AT NO POINT IN TIME IN MY POST DID I COMPLAIN. You pulled my comment completely out of context and changed it's meaning. You also mysteriously neglected to include the sentence following that one. You know, the one where I said that I do it all for my love and passion of the sport. I don't do this for the money. I could probably make more money doing something else, but I don't want to. I happen to love what I do and am able to make a living at it and could not be happier. I also happen to think I'm pretty good at it. There may even be a few people that would agree with me.
This is the reason that I never get involved in opinionated threads. There are always people that will disagree and twist another's words to suit their needs.
If my advertising $ helps keep this place here, then I will continue to do it. I have no problem with IB making $. That's why they bought the site. I also happen to be in business to make money. I would also bet that every business owner here is in business to make money.
Bottom line. If you don't think this place has any value, then don't become a member. If you want to become a member, then great. It doesn't effect me either way. I don't mind paying to get something in return, whether it is as an advertiser or just a member. I have been both.
We obviously have a difference of opinion and that's fine. I never asked for anyone to agree with me. Some may, some may not. It's great that we have the ability to form our own opinions.
Sorry for the rant. I'm done.
Last edited by Young Performance; 12-15-2010 at 08:41 PM.
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