43 Nortech vs. 46 Cig. RR
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Apache is the legend when it comes to rough water boating, but most people dont boat in 6+ footers everyday. In "normal" rough conditions, say 3-5 footers the Apache will be left in the dust. So IMPO, American Muscle II 46 Cig RR has them beat in most "normal" sea conditions.....PLUS BLING! Sorry
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Both are great boats. I thought I read somewhere the 46 was Cig's most efficient hull. NT is going to have a softer ride and certainly can be used in any water the Cig ventures into.
Jeremy's AM2 is one of the best looking 46/50's ever built!
Jeremy's AM2 is one of the best looking 46/50's ever built!
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Structural build quality on an Outerlimits is behind no one. A carbon fiiber epoxy boat is stronger than any full wood and fiberglass boat. That "epoxy" ride you speak of doesnt exist anymore with the SL and SV Outerlimits. Rigging is different than build quality which I assume you meant to say.
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I would agree that the newer 46 Cigarette's are their best bottom.
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I am not ready to buy right now and if I was I would look at 42-46 OL's but of the ones out their now not many OL's in the 200-300k range a few 42's but not with the power I would want or a little beat up looking, the NT's and Cig's out their are very nice boats. Thats not the say the OL's can't be talked down to the same price just looking at whats out their now. I don't think the build and any of the 3 would be bad and at that level if you see something you dont like you thell and they fix it they want you happy and buying and telling your friends to buy their boats.
I like a big cabin so the NT or OL would fit my taste more and it seems only a few think that the RR would have that much better of a ride only in real big water so the $75-100k less cabin they have is for the Icon Cigarette thing. I would be fine with just a real head gen and ac to keep the with happy but nobody likes a crapper in the middle of the salon, dont need a refer or micro just the other stuff.
I like a big cabin so the NT or OL would fit my taste more and it seems only a few think that the RR would have that much better of a ride only in real big water so the $75-100k less cabin they have is for the Icon Cigarette thing. I would be fine with just a real head gen and ac to keep the with happy but nobody likes a crapper in the middle of the salon, dont need a refer or micro just the other stuff.
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I am not ready to buy right now and if I was I would look at 42-46 OL's but of the ones out their now not many OL's in the 200-300k range a few 42's but not with the power I would want or a little beat up looking, the NT's and Cig's out their are very nice boats. Thats not the say the OL's can't be talked down to the same price just looking at whats out their now. I don't think the build and any of the 3 would be bad and at that level if you see something you dont like you thell and they fix it they want you happy and buying and telling your friends to buy their boats.
I like a big cabin so the NT or OL would fit my taste more and it seems only a few think that the RR would have that much better of a ride only in real big water so the $75-100k less cabin they have is for the Icon Cigarette thing. I would be fine with just a real head gen and ac to keep the with happy but nobody likes a crapper in the middle of the salon, dont need a refer or micro just the other stuff.
I like a big cabin so the NT or OL would fit my taste more and it seems only a few think that the RR would have that much better of a ride only in real big water so the $75-100k less cabin they have is for the Icon Cigarette thing. I would be fine with just a real head gen and ac to keep the with happy but nobody likes a crapper in the middle of the salon, dont need a refer or micro just the other stuff.
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This thread just got derailed......according to Ciggy fans the "crapper in the middle of the cabin" is a fine design.....never to be improved from 1988!
Not sure about the deeper cockpit on an OL compared to a NT. Both seem "armpit deep" from the helm.
Not sure about the deeper cockpit on an OL compared to a NT. Both seem "armpit deep" from the helm.
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Structural build quality on an Outerlimits is behind no one. A carbon fiiber epoxy boat is stronger than any full wood and fiberglass boat. That "epoxy" ride you speak of doesnt exist anymore with the SL and SV Outerlimits. Rigging is different than build quality which I assume you meant to say.