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fantastixvoyage 01-19-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND (Post 3301785)
So 2 big dealerships are no longer selling Fountains not good?

Really surprising seeing as they just announced an end to all "direct from the factory" sales.

Must be wanting to start their own dealer network or really $hitty pricing/terms to the dealers. Either way I agree Shogren's got a good handle on this biz and if he's out there's a reason.

Interceptor 01-19-2011 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3301604)
The existing hull designs that Fountain now owns were Reggie's/Fountains designs but cannot belong to him now. He woud a new hull design which I guess could still have a beak but why ? Why copy someone else ?

ed

What I'm trying to say is Fountain Powerboats must own the complete design including the laminate schedule, coreing, stringer layout etc. The beak is a small part of that design. So again I'm thinking a new design is needed if he were to build new hulls again and that requires a significant chunk of start up money.
I could see him running a race team with existing hulls using someone elses money. Don't see him involved in a LipShip type shop either, deep down he's a gearhead not a blingmaster.

Maybe he'll get more involved in real estate and forget boat building.

ed

TriPaC87 01-19-2011 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3301740)
I LOVE Charlene! Great people at Raymonds!

I love Charlene, too!! She's like my grandma!!

It's sad to see that Shogren and Raymond's won't be working with Fountain anymore considering the relationship they have both built in the past.

Tristan

DaveP 01-19-2011 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by sy goldberg (Post 3300767)
After working in the Fountain booths at all the major boat shows for 21 years I was informed that there was no room for me. I have a new location which I will announce ASAP and will be available for instant high performance boat insurance quotes at the MIAMI show.

I already heard.............THE MENS ROOM :evilb:

sy goldberg 01-19-2011 06:09 PM

no !
 
I prefer the room on the otherside of the wall with hidden cameras.:evilb:

DollaBill 01-19-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3301815)
What I'm trying to say is Fountain Powerboats must own the complete design including the laminate schedule, coreing, stringer layout etc. The beak is a small part of that design. So again I'm thinking a new design is needed if he were to build new hulls again and that requires a significant chunk of start up money.
I could see him running a race team with existing hulls using someone elses money. Don't see him involved in a LipShip type shop either, deep down he's a gearhead not a blingmaster.

Maybe he'll get more involved in real estate and forget boat building.

ed

Somethings cooking. Dont worry

mikebrls 01-19-2011 06:57 PM

they have a add looking for used fountain's to buy whole sale saying that he is also a dealer ?

cigboat1 01-19-2011 07:39 PM

Fountain;And the people who now own the business are no different than when Wellcraft and Scarab dominated the business for twenty plus years.They pushed out volume at first and then when the prices of boats started to skyrocket they chose to make custom boats to the people who could afford them. For a number of reasons Scarab fell by the way side and then the economy got them and that was the last straw in 2002
I dont see things changing much now.Shogren probably figured he could not turn a big enough profit and decided not to carry a really big floor plan that might eat him up....OR Reggie has a some new financing and may be coming out with a new line of boats....... Either way it always sad to see things end on a sour note....If we keep losing boat companies
there will be very little left of this sport .....Maybe if prices start to come down it will benefit everyone in the sport and the industry.


Jim

dykstra 01-19-2011 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3301789)
Really surprising seeing as they just announced an end to all "direct from the factory" sales.

Must be wanting to start their own dealer network or really $hitty pricing/terms to the dealers. Either way I agree Shogren's got a good handle on this biz and if he's out there's a reason.

AGREED!!:drink:


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