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flat rate 01-24-2011 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 3305068)
Fountain has its place in this industry but they are not that impressive to me.

Reggie might do something new in the future but who knows. It seems to me that Reggie is passionate about BOATS not MONEY. To make it in the current boat industry you need to put money first not the passion of powerboats. Thats why an "investment" company owns fountain, baja, donzi, proline.

Shogren parting ways with fountain is purley about MONEY! Shogren (the dealer as a whole) was so cocky about fountain over the past years. Even to downgrade some of the boats they now sell. To do a 180 shows they care about money more. Do you blame them? Thats what most humans in this world care about, "money is the root of all evil".

Black Thunder is STILL in business and build an impressive unique boat. A floating condo that does 91mph (propped for midrange) with side by side merc 700's! 47 fountain staggered 700s (propped for top end) only does 89.

i am wondering where you got those numbers from??

TeamShogren.com 01-24-2011 06:48 PM

Used Boats
 
We are looking for freshwater, clean, used v-bottoms with stock Mercury power, not just Fountains.

Thank you

Team Shogren

www.teamshogren.com


Originally Posted by FuelinAround (Post 3306269)
I just saw in the classifieds on here where shogren is advertising they want to purchase used fountains? Not sure if this has already been discussed earlier in this thread. Looks like shogren will still try and keep used fountains in stock


DollaBill 01-24-2011 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 3306275)
i am wondering where you got those numbers from??

And the black thunder looks like something Mike and Carol Brady would spend the weekends on. You'd pretty much have to give me one to be seen in it

offshorexcursion 01-24-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by LapseofReason (Post 3306222)
There is plenty of room for Reggie if he builds a boat that is as nice or nicer than the top ones out there. Nortech, Outerlimits, Cigarette, Statement. Sure these builders got hurt some by the economy but they still build new boats to order and put out new ones not the same old thing year after year. His boats were fast sure but not as nice. I could care less how they do in a race, I have never been to a boat race and if I ever do go it's for the party not the race.
Build 10-15 boats a year that have the WOW factor not some stupid sign on the side with it's top speed. People that still have the money to buy a $500k+ toy are not going to buy what they were putting out the last few years. And if it's a 42 Foot it better have the same room in it as the other boats in it's class, not a 38 with a beak. And yes as somebody else said it change that old dash so you can see without having to look under the wheel.

Very well said, thanks for the support. We need to copy and paste this to the fountain section under "reggies out are you?"

Jupiter Sunsation 01-24-2011 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3306296)
And the black thunder looks like something Mike and Carol Brady would spend the weekends on. You'd pretty much have to give me one to be seen in it


You would be one guy that could fill that pimp cruise ship up and make it look cool......or fill it with so much azz people don't notice the boat! :D

Jupiter Sunsation 01-24-2011 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Team Shogren (Post 3306290)
We are looking for freshwater, clean, used v-bottoms with stock Mercury power, not just Fountains.

Thank you

Team Shogren

www.teamshogren.com

Once again, Shogren wants boats he can sell!

offshorexcursion 01-24-2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 3306275)
i am wondering where you got those numbers from??

Fountain web site, hot boat test of a 08 black thunder. Black thunder is WAY more boat then a 47 fountain. Not saying that a 42 fountain might not be fun to drive. But what I and many others use their boat for, we would much rather have a 50 nor tech, 46 black thunder with the amazing extended cockpit, or a 51 outerlimts. We sleep on our boat for long weekends, use the cabin, have lots of friends in the cockpit, and still want to go fast. A fountain does not do that for us. Every boat has its purpose, just impressive in general, (powerboat mag agrees) what a black thunder does with 700's.

offshorexcursion 01-24-2011 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3306313)
Once again, Shogren wants boats he can sell!

Do you even know how to read? He wrote "not just fountains".
Shogren is not unicef, they are in business to make money!

DollaBill 01-24-2011 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3306310)
You would be one guy that could fill that pimp cruise ship up and make it look cool......or fill it with so much azz people don't notice the boat! :D

Thank you and that would be ALOT of azz to overcome the looks of that boat LOL

DollaBill 01-24-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 3306317)
Fountain web site, hot boat test of a 08 black thunder. Black thunder is WAY more boat then a 47 fountain. Not saying that a 42 fountain might not be fun to drive. But what I and many others use their boat for, we would much rather have a 50 nor tech, 46 black thunder with the amazing extended cockpit, or a 51 outerlimts. We sleep on our boat for long weekends, use the cabin, have lots of friends in the cockpit, and still want to go fast. A fountain does not do that for us. Every boat has its purpose, just impressive in general, (powerboat mag agrees) what a black thunder does with 700's.

I can tell you I've had seat time in MANY Baja models and every later Fountain model (early 2000's up). first there is no comparison in the ride or construction. I agree with what people have said that Fountain built the best of the production boats. I don't think thats a bad thing. It's also true that Baja has it's place as an entry level, price competitive model. Just a fact.

And regarding your comment about staying on boats for the weekend..... thats a VERY different boating than most do here. Most dont use their boats as a camper.


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