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Downtown42 02-13-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3323364)
Ive been trying to get my son a blimp ride for years. He wants to soo bad. Any info on how you did it??

While selling Peterbilt trucks in the early '90's, Goodyear gave the dealership about 20 tickets and my General Manager liked me enough to offer one for the wife and myself. Not sure if you can publicy just buy a ride. I think it is invitation only. We just buzzed around for maybe 45 min or so.

Raylar 02-15-2011 11:40 AM

Crying does not Help!
 
HotPursuit

Understand your passion for speed and comments quite well.
Just to state a fact here I AM NOT CRYING!
I was traveling in race boats over 30 years ago at over 100mph!
I was also tossed from a race boat twice at over 100mph and the first time was unconcious after impact, the second time with a broken back. Both times the lifeline vest, helmet and good work by the safety crews saved my life and I am still here today to speak from a place of experience!
Just let me know how you fare next time you get tossed from That Skater at over lets say a slow 125mph! You'll be lucky to be alive yet alone have enough time to cry!
Its all cool when its fine, it's Oh My God when its not!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

skaterdave 02-15-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3326939)
Just let me know how you fare next time you get tossed from That Skater at over lets say a slow 125mph! You'll be lucky to be alive yet alone have enough time to cry!
Its all cool when its fine, it's Oh My God when its not!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

ray i'm with you on this one. it seems alot of poker runners/ high speed pleasure boaters enjoy going fast, which is fine but everyone thinks it will never happen to them. like t2x said your odds get alot smaller the more you play at these speed

theres several videos just from havasu where guys are running within 300-500 feet of the shore line or other boats. at over 200 feet a second thats about 1-2 seconds before.....

there was just 2 guys that ran into each down here in florida

T2x 02-15-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 3323121)
I like speed the faster the better and will try to run out front and make every stop we can. I get sick of all the crying,,if your scared of death say home and lock yourself in a room!! It will still find you some day.
That said i believe in safety first no drinking while driving and use a little common sense!! And for god sacks if you have never owned a high performance boat dont start with the fastest one just because you can!!!!!!!!!! :lolhit:

1. If you like to "run out front" why don't you enter a sanctioned boat race instead of a Poker Run? That way you have actual safety equipment designed for competition and medical and safety personnel and aircraft.

2. I, too, am very supportive of "God Sacks"....... But you must only use jock straps blessed by a Bishop, a Grand Rebbe, or an Ayatollah.

getreal 02-15-2011 05:50 PM

The Definition of Acceleration
 
Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just under 4 seconds! There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car!


DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION

One top fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

It takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully-loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock, Dodge Hemi, V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg. F.

Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.

The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run


(05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).

Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter, 'twin-turbo' powered, Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

LapseofReason 02-15-2011 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by getreal (Post 3327305)
Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just under 4 seconds! There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car!


DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION

One top fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

It takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully-loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock, Dodge Hemi, V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg. F.

Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.

The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run


(05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).

Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter, 'twin-turbo' powered, Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

This has been posted a few times but it's always a good read. The most amazing part is John Force is one of the best driving a funny car and he is dumb as a stump. I met him once a talked for about 30 min, I thought he was working on a stand up skit on me but it's just him.

GLH 03-14-2011 09:46 PM

Good thread....

Apple a day 03-15-2011 09:16 AM

I agree this is a good thread. I went 160 once it was a blast. Unfortunatly the owner of that boat is now deceased. (boat accident) Now my 100 mph Talon is just fine. Be safe everyone!

BLee 03-15-2011 09:17 AM

Great article as always Matt.

My friends & I run our cats a LOT, as well as ride in each others often during the year. Even having quite a bit of regular seat time running fast, it never feels any less "serious" with each run.

The water conditions & traffic are constantly changing, so you have to be mindful of potential scenarios when you're going to run speeds that make turning more difficult. I always try to have a comfortable second option to take, if the line I'm on becomes unreliable for even the slightest reason.

I think the statistics are pretty favorable concerning accidents, when you consider how many boats are on the water capable of 90+mph. Even with what seems like every accident being posted on OSO, there aren't that many by comparison, which is obviously a great thing.

fitler 03-15-2011 09:39 AM

My buddy in college down in St.Pete had a 20 lake and bay boca with a 300xs engine. This was a boat that would do high 80's with nothing in front of you to block the wind. It's a flats boat so had like 0 freeboard. even less then most flats boats. It was terrifying and terrific all at the same time. At high speeds the boat would barely be in to water.


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