X-Rated30

Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance of how the system works, yet again. Your first two sentences are correct. After that you go back to praddling on about things of which you are completely clueless.

I don't play golf. I don't hang out with prosecutors. And, you might look into those "technicalities" you keep mentioning. You can start by looking here: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html If I don't make the government(s) observe your rights, who will? Yes, I am privately retained, and I am paid very well, but that is because I do my job well.

Smarty

Golfing with the Prosecutor, that cracks me up. If I ever get jammed up in Louisiana I am calling you for help.

I like your choice of boat too, knew we more in common that being lawyers. I would drink beer with a Prosecutor (if invited), but that never has happened, so golf is definitely out of the question. Funny how the general public perceives what lawyers do and how we get it done.

cplouis

I, like every sane person, do not advocate operating a boat, car or anything that may cause danger to one self, property and most particularly to others while under the influence of any mind or ability altering substance. However, with regard to an officer of the law boarding your boat, if you are below deck out of plain sight and/or doors are closed, the water cop better have a warrant to enter your qualified "Second Home"! I have gone through this with an RV while camping in a CA state park. I asked the Ranger what he wanted and I did not get a clear or reasonable answer. We were playing poker and drinking beer and wine. Nobody was intoxicated. I could have been more cooperative, but I didn't like the park Nazi attitude and we were technically gambling in CA, so I refused to open the door. We had a discussion through the door and the calmer that I spoke the more the Ranger yelled and made threats. Nevertheless, I stood fast, refused to open the door and told him that if he wanted to enter he needed a court order to enter with specific cause. The crowd that gathered was quite amused and the Ranger was sizzling pissed. But the Ranger did leave with an empty truck and did not return.

"Probable Cause" is not a state regulation. A search warrant is needed anywhere in the US of A or within the jurisdiction of the US of A without probable cause or in the heat of pursuit. If you are in plain sight, well that is a different situation. However behind closed doors or below deck out of plain sight while in your "Second Home"? No warrant = No search-No seizure of property-No arrest. Know your rights. They can save your butt!

scarab63

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I really don't give a fukk about this thread anymore, but I'm addicted !! I love seeing fount0442 get verbally dismantled !! I myself love to argue if I'm right.... but would I argue law with multiple seemingly successful lawyers? ? HELL NO.

please fount0442 keep fighting ! Its great.

Once your done I know of a great forum where you can debate physics with physicists then math with a mathematician ...

C where I'm headed?

Keep up the good work!!!!!

PhantomChaos

The Fountain "yoot" has watched Cousin Vinnie while stationed in those places so he knows it all. He really needs to step back and take his seat.

X-Rated30

Heck - I don't know many that can afford to golf! LOL

Fountain4402

I don't know you anymore than I know the next guy. And everything you say is to promote your professions lively hood which is fine. And you don't know my background as well. You dont think the govt pushes for pleas? And if you are lawyer and are not at least aquaintences with the your DA, then your not a very good one. And you cant tell me as a lawyer if you are one, if a client comes in and tells you his story, you don't know what he's most likely going to get. Again you don't know what I know or who I am and I dont spout off on I'm this or that and on here giving cheap law advice. I have personally seen clients come in tell story, lawyer say well we can get you off or get you this. Lawyer either goes to lunch or calls up the DA or assistant DA and says look we have this and this what do you think? Yup sounds good. I have personally seen a DA drop a case down to a $35 fine because he thought it was bogus but still wanted the conviction.

And you don't think lawyers haven't created a sue happy society? Give me a break. IMO theres a difference between protecting people from the law and getting them off on something due to small technicalities.

Fountain4402

I'm not going to sit and here have a law debate or debate on opinions anymore with you. I'm sure your a descent lawyer maybe even a great one. And you of all people should know the law is up to anybodys interpretation so there really is not a right or wrong answer half of the time, that's why we need lawyers. In the state of OK you just better be careful and hope the police aren't bastards.

X-Rated30

So you WANT a lawyer that is friends with the prosecutor? Is he going to be on your side or his friend's side? Who's interest is that lawyer looking out for? I can assure you I can come to your hometown without knowing anyone and get a good result, and generally my result will be better than that guy that is "acquainted" with the DA.

Finally, you give some accurate advice, but it is true in any state.

DucBoy

double post - sorry