Originally Posted by smokeybandit

So just about every race this season has been insignificant in your view. How many classes had 2 or fewer participants? wouldn't those classes be insignificant?

Originally Posted by CigDaze

You NE guys are alright. Bring it on.

Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2

hahaha...we tend to make threads interesting.

Originally Posted by bzsmarina

no i am not a proud american boater any more! Not after all this crap!!!! I use to like this site, now i hate it!! This race is more meaningfully than any other. Now is it meaningfully to win if all the other boats break? My answer is yes, very much so! Just to make it around 271 miles is. If you dont think so, try it see how far you make it. Now if i was a big dollar guy like you guys than i would bet you i would make it much farther than you, but i dont have cash like that. Now to just go around with no race is very much not meaningfully. The hole point is the advensure not how much the cost or what do i get for free. Its to honor the greats and don. But all the young guys dont honor anyone but themselves. Now i am done with this crappy site, and lost all faith in most on here. Dont ever look for me at your poker runs or event. Only event i would ever go to is one billy puts on, as last year i was treated with much respect. My last words are if you think its that easy come out try to beat me, but you never will. Good bye oso!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by bzsmarina

Good bye oso!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by CigDaze

No. I view those other races as actually meaningful. Take for instance Sarasota...It happened on the weekend it was supposed to happen, as advertised (locally, nationally, and all over the internet), 10's of thousands of people showed up, the racing was good, the coverage was excellent, etc.

Clearwater is coming up very soon. I'd venture to say that it will probably take place when it's supposed to take place. I'll be in the spectator fleet amongst the other 3,000 boats.

Then there's Key West. I'll be there amongst the many other thousands of folks.

Events like that possess significance.

Tell me, how many people were expected to attend this weekends L.I. race? Where would they go? What channel was it going to be on? If you won because the one other boat broke down how meaningful would that be? What's stopping you from going around L.I. this weekend anyway? Same thing, but you'd save a thousand bucks...

Just my view. I'm entitled to it, and I'm taking it.

Originally Posted by smokeybandit

I think I understand your point (finally) and why we look at it differently. My viewpoint is that of a racer. Your viewpoint is that of a spectator. I will honestly say that as a racer my only concern was racing. I was never involved, nor did I have any desire to be involved, in the marketing end.

You are correct. Those "races" took place on time and in the advertised location. My point as a racer (not a spectator) is that how can a race be a race with only 1 boat in a class? Isn't that just a demonstration?

Once again, I view it as a competitor, but I am trying to see the spectator side of things.