Outerlimits sets new record
09-26-2011, 07:05 AM
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Again congrats to both Joe's, Ilmor and OL! Blowing away the OB record was also very impressive, so congrats to them as well!!!
Conditions in LIS were 1' or less and 3-4' on the south side according to the marine data when I looked yesterday.
Conditions in LIS were 1' or less and 3-4' on the south side according to the marine data when I looked yesterday.
09-26-2011, 07:12 AM
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Does anyone know if there was onsite viewership at the start finish or at the fuel stop ?
All the participants put a lot of effort into this.
More so perhaps by the guys that had to drive and pick up their broken boats part way around the course.
Kudos to all.
09-26-2011, 07:27 AM
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Congratulations to the winners and all who took part. Glad to see the event came together.
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09-26-2011, 08:22 AM
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Real ocean racing over long distance is a very different animal than other kinds of racing. Some of the conditions that the crew has to keep in mind are:
You can't win unless you finish. This means you can't go all out from the start and leave nothing in reserve. This is often the reason that slower boats often win big events.
How much fuel does your boat really use in these conditions. Will you have enough to make it all the way.....or be a wonder for most of the race and then run out 5 miles from the end?
Navigation at high speed is not easy on any day of the week, but then you add in some of the weather problems of yesterday and it becomes a nightmare. As they approached Montauk, they ran into a heavy fog bank.
Not being able to see too far in front of them, they relied on the GPS on the dash, only to discover that it showed the boat actually on land......How close were they to a beach that they couldn't see?
The waves were typical Montauk. When they set off down the beach, they had to constantly try to figure how fast for fuel consumption and how fast to win.
To give you an idea that at some point they decided to go for it, when they were approaching the Verrazano Bridge, we left the dock at La Motta's to bring the checkered flag for the finish.
They came all the way into the harbor past Staten Island, up East
River, under the remaining bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone.... and we barley made it to the finish line to greet them.
They took on a lot of unknowns and did the best they could with it and proved it can still be done. I think they may have also gained some new idea of why guys like Don Aronow and Sam Griffith are so revered.....to win these open ocean races, you needed to be tough and smart....just like these two guys yesterday. Congrats to them.
You can't win unless you finish. This means you can't go all out from the start and leave nothing in reserve. This is often the reason that slower boats often win big events.
How much fuel does your boat really use in these conditions. Will you have enough to make it all the way.....or be a wonder for most of the race and then run out 5 miles from the end?
Navigation at high speed is not easy on any day of the week, but then you add in some of the weather problems of yesterday and it becomes a nightmare. As they approached Montauk, they ran into a heavy fog bank.
Not being able to see too far in front of them, they relied on the GPS on the dash, only to discover that it showed the boat actually on land......How close were they to a beach that they couldn't see?
The waves were typical Montauk. When they set off down the beach, they had to constantly try to figure how fast for fuel consumption and how fast to win.
To give you an idea that at some point they decided to go for it, when they were approaching the Verrazano Bridge, we left the dock at La Motta's to bring the checkered flag for the finish.
They came all the way into the harbor past Staten Island, up East
River, under the remaining bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone.... and we barley made it to the finish line to greet them.
They took on a lot of unknowns and did the best they could with it and proved it can still be done. I think they may have also gained some new idea of why guys like Don Aronow and Sam Griffith are so revered.....to win these open ocean races, you needed to be tough and smart....just like these two guys yesterday. Congrats to them.
09-26-2011, 08:38 AM
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Congratulations to not only the winners, but all of the participants and everyone that helped set this up. I can only hope that this is the beginning of offshore racing returning to offshore. Judging by the number of posts and views on this thread versus threads regarding this weekends inshore race, I would say there is definitely a lot of interest here.
I would love to see the real NJ offshore race take place. Either the 80's shortened course (about 150 miles) or the original course which went out to Fire Island and was over 200 miles.
Welcome back offshore racing!
I would love to see the real NJ offshore race take place. Either the 80's shortened course (about 150 miles) or the original course which went out to Fire Island and was over 200 miles.
Welcome back offshore racing!
09-26-2011, 08:56 AM
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Real ocean racing over long distance is a very different animal than other kinds of racing. Some of the conditions that the crew has to keep in mind are:
You can't win unless you finish. This means you can't go all out from the start and leave nothing in reserve. This is often the reason that slower boats often win big events.
How much fuel does your boat really use in these conditions. Will you have enough to make it all the way.....or be a wonder for most of the race and then run out 5 miles from the end?
Navigation at high speed is not easy on any day of the week, but then you add in some of the weather problems of yesterday and it becomes a nightmare. As they approached Montauk, they ran into a heavy fog bank.
Not being able to see too far in front of them, they relied on the GPS on the dash, only to discover that it showed the boat actually on land......How close were they to a beach that they couldn't see?
The waves were typical Montauk. When they set off down the beach, they had to constantly try to figure how fast for fuel consumption and how fast to win.
To give you an idea that at some point they decided to go for it, when they were approaching the Verrazano Bridge, we left the dock at La Motta's to bring the checkered flag for the finish.
They came all the way into the harbor past Staten Island, up East
River, under the remaining bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone.... and we barley made it to the finish line to greet them.
They took on a lot of unknowns and did the best they could with it and proved it can still be done. I think they may have also gained some new idea of why guys like Don Aronow and Sam Griffith are so revered.....to win these open ocean races, you needed to be tough and smart....just like these two guys yesterday. Congrats to them.
You can't win unless you finish. This means you can't go all out from the start and leave nothing in reserve. This is often the reason that slower boats often win big events.
How much fuel does your boat really use in these conditions. Will you have enough to make it all the way.....or be a wonder for most of the race and then run out 5 miles from the end?
Navigation at high speed is not easy on any day of the week, but then you add in some of the weather problems of yesterday and it becomes a nightmare. As they approached Montauk, they ran into a heavy fog bank.
Not being able to see too far in front of them, they relied on the GPS on the dash, only to discover that it showed the boat actually on land......How close were they to a beach that they couldn't see?
The waves were typical Montauk. When they set off down the beach, they had to constantly try to figure how fast for fuel consumption and how fast to win.
To give you an idea that at some point they decided to go for it, when they were approaching the Verrazano Bridge, we left the dock at La Motta's to bring the checkered flag for the finish.
They came all the way into the harbor past Staten Island, up East
River, under the remaining bridges, Throgs Neck, Whitestone.... and we barley made it to the finish line to greet them.
They took on a lot of unknowns and did the best they could with it and proved it can still be done. I think they may have also gained some new idea of why guys like Don Aronow and Sam Griffith are so revered.....to win these open ocean races, you needed to be tough and smart....just like these two guys yesterday. Congrats to them.
The natural tendency is to help one another when someone breaks but since this is set up as a race, then I presume that doesnt happen.
What was organized to aid any of the guys that if they broke and were totally dead in the water or were taking on water, to retrieve them if need be ?
Were they out there totally on there own?
Did each have to organize their own rescues if needed?
I see that those that broke got themselves into shore, but what if they couldnt.
Was there provision for help?
Last edited by Catastrophe; 09-26-2011 at 09:00 AM.
