Barrie on Baja, Donzi, Fountain and Pro-Line Future: “Four strong brands entrenched i
12-05-2011, 04:17 PM
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Barrie on Baja, Donzi, Fountain and Pro-Line Future: “Four strong brands entrenched i
Some interesting stuff directly from Craig Barrie, http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...rketplace.html
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12-06-2011, 09:45 AM
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Disagree, respectfully of course, Bill.
Things will never be what they once were in the go-fast boat world, especially on the production-model side, but I'd rather listen to someone speaking modestly about future plans than dishing out pure hyperbole.
Just following the story as it continues to unfold. To be sure, it's been a long one. To be equally sure, the end is from written.
Things will never be what they once were in the go-fast boat world, especially on the production-model side, but I'd rather listen to someone speaking modestly about future plans than dishing out pure hyperbole.
Just following the story as it continues to unfold. To be sure, it's been a long one. To be equally sure, the end is from written.
12-06-2011, 08:41 PM
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Disagree, respectfully of course, Bill.
Things will never be what they once were in the go-fast boat world, especially on the production-model side, but I'd rather listen to someone speaking modestly about future plans than dishing out pure hyperbole.
Just following the story as it continues to unfold. To be sure, it's been a long one. To be equally sure, the end is from written.
Things will never be what they once were in the go-fast boat world, especially on the production-model side, but I'd rather listen to someone speaking modestly about future plans than dishing out pure hyperbole.
Just following the story as it continues to unfold. To be sure, it's been a long one. To be equally sure, the end is from written.
12-07-2011, 11:12 AM
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Its going to be very tough going forward, and not like it was. Fuel costs are not longer inconsequential, and until we move beyond petroleum, it will never again be cheap. All the cheap oil has been pumped.
The non-petroleum approaches are not close to being ready for large production. When ready, energy will be very, very cheap. Might happen in a decade. Unfortunately, money really talks, so high energy costs make entrenched energy companies very powerful. Might be a century before we get out of the clutches of expensive Big Oil.
Europe, with an equivalent or higher standard of living than the USA, has had high gas prices for decades. The performance powerboat market there is very small. Even ski boats are extremely rare. So that is probably what we can expect.
In fact, anything to do with big engines is quite rare over there. For decades, the **majority** of Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Rolls Royce, and sporty high horsepower Mercedes and other European gas guzzlers have been sold not just in the USA, but in Southern California. More recently, Metro New York and Southern Florida. That is how far skewed our experience with motor driven recreation is compared to the rest of the world with gas prices this high. We personally experience most of the people on the planet who share this interest.
There is no NASCAR in Europe. F-1 is a glamour spectator sport (watch the glamourous spectators). Non-motorized recreation dominates there. Expect the same here.
Therefore, Barrie's plan for very low volume, very high customer focus, may well be the only successful business model going forward.
The non-petroleum approaches are not close to being ready for large production. When ready, energy will be very, very cheap. Might happen in a decade. Unfortunately, money really talks, so high energy costs make entrenched energy companies very powerful. Might be a century before we get out of the clutches of expensive Big Oil.
Europe, with an equivalent or higher standard of living than the USA, has had high gas prices for decades. The performance powerboat market there is very small. Even ski boats are extremely rare. So that is probably what we can expect.
In fact, anything to do with big engines is quite rare over there. For decades, the **majority** of Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Rolls Royce, and sporty high horsepower Mercedes and other European gas guzzlers have been sold not just in the USA, but in Southern California. More recently, Metro New York and Southern Florida. That is how far skewed our experience with motor driven recreation is compared to the rest of the world with gas prices this high. We personally experience most of the people on the planet who share this interest.
There is no NASCAR in Europe. F-1 is a glamour spectator sport (watch the glamourous spectators). Non-motorized recreation dominates there. Expect the same here.
Therefore, Barrie's plan for very low volume, very high customer focus, may well be the only successful business model going forward.
