Gratton Family to File Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against Super Boat International
12-09-2011, 06:30 PM
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Just one question for all of you that are outraged.... How many of you could hold your breath for 3.5 minutes? 4 minutes? 5 minutes? 6 minutes?
I've got no dog in this fight, but just ranting on without knowing ALL of the facts could make some of you feel foolish later. There are a few interesting points made in the article. Go back and read it again. I've been involved in the hosting of enough races to not be blaming the lawyers just yet if what I have heard that went on is true. Wait for the FACTS.
Now, flame away if that'll make you feel better.
.....and rest in peace Mr. Gratton
I've got no dog in this fight, but just ranting on without knowing ALL of the facts could make some of you feel foolish later. There are a few interesting points made in the article. Go back and read it again. I've been involved in the hosting of enough races to not be blaming the lawyers just yet if what I have heard that went on is true. Wait for the FACTS.
Now, flame away if that'll make you feel better.
.....and rest in peace Mr. Gratton
12-09-2011, 06:34 PM
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I dont have a dog in the fight either but I do know that with all the teams I raced with we always had our own chopper and medics on the course at all times. we sure did not do that just so we could spend more money.
12-09-2011, 06:35 PM
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I don't understand everyones attitude..........after all the reading I have done for the past few weeks, it seems that safety is an after thought in offshore races. I have raced motocross my entire life, made a living at it, and I can tell you, even at the smallest races NOBODY could ride until an ambulance was on scene. From what I read last week, boats were racing in KW with no medical on sight.
I guess the point is, maybe this needs to happen so promoters in offshore will get a wake up call.
I guess the point is, maybe this needs to happen so promoters in offshore will get a wake up call.
12-09-2011, 07:29 PM
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Just one question for all of you that are outraged.... How many of you could hold your breath for 3.5 minutes? 4 minutes? 5 minutes? 6 minutes?
I've got no dog in this fight, but just ranting on without knowing ALL of the facts could make some of you feel foolish later. There are a few interesting points made in the article. Go back and read it again. I've been involved in the hosting of enough races to not be blaming the lawyers just yet if what I have heard that went on is true. Wait for the FACTS.
Now, flame away if that'll make you feel better.
.....and rest in peace Mr. Gratton
I've got no dog in this fight, but just ranting on without knowing ALL of the facts could make some of you feel foolish later. There are a few interesting points made in the article. Go back and read it again. I've been involved in the hosting of enough races to not be blaming the lawyers just yet if what I have heard that went on is true. Wait for the FACTS.
Now, flame away if that'll make you feel better.
.....and rest in peace Mr. Gratton
12-09-2011, 07:34 PM
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Trying not to point fingers and state this toward any of the 3 that passed, but I have to say this quote pisses me off.
"and there was no reason whatsoever for him to drown"
I am the type of guy that trys very hard to cover my own asz and wants to take complete responsibility of my actions. now you look at these million dollar boats, teams, & drivers who knows the high risk every time they strap in and race. with all the money why wouldnt they have an SCBA right next to them? You can get a 10 min SCBA for about $500. I truly applaud any race team that does but for anyone that does not I would let 100% neglagence fall on their shoulders! Rules or no rules.
Again I do not know the circumstances in which the recent losses occured, just feelings on community in general!
"and there was no reason whatsoever for him to drown"
I am the type of guy that trys very hard to cover my own asz and wants to take complete responsibility of my actions. now you look at these million dollar boats, teams, & drivers who knows the high risk every time they strap in and race. with all the money why wouldnt they have an SCBA right next to them? You can get a 10 min SCBA for about $500. I truly applaud any race team that does but for anyone that does not I would let 100% neglagence fall on their shoulders! Rules or no rules.
Again I do not know the circumstances in which the recent losses occured, just feelings on community in general!
12-09-2011, 08:04 PM
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[QUOTE=OldSchool;3567884]Just one question for all of you that are outraged.... How many of you could hold your breath for 3.5 minutes? 4 minutes? 5 minutes? 6 minutes?
What racer would assume that no matter where in the course and what the circustances of the crash are, you can be rescued within a certain time frame?
This will be settled and the lawyer will make enough to buy a real nice boat, hopefully he will sleep well.
What racer would assume that no matter where in the course and what the circustances of the crash are, you can be rescued within a certain time frame?
This will be settled and the lawyer will make enough to buy a real nice boat, hopefully he will sleep well.
12-09-2011, 08:43 PM
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in reading these posts,i see 2 different sides or views about the law suit.i am not a big fan of lawyers,but i must say,safety was not a top priority at the key west race,anyone who thinks that is acceptable needs to rethink it.will sbi change the way they look at safety,THEY WILL NOW,this law suit will bring out all the facts,and things will change.its sad that something like this has to happen for change to happen.if in fact joey,s death was a direct result of substandard safety,and if 1 life is saved because of this law suit,maybe it is a good thing.just my 02 on this,ws are all entitled to think the way we like.may the 3 great racers rest in peace,and never be forgotten.
12-09-2011, 08:52 PM
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every racer wants safety to quickly get to a crash victom,and follow the standard operating procedures in the event of a crash,after all,isen,t that what safery&rescue is all about?as far as the lawyer making enough money to buy a real nice boat,is he suppost to work for free,i know i dont,and i bet you dont either.just sayin.
Just one question for all of you that are outraged.... How many of you could hold your breath for 3.5 minutes? 4 minutes? 5 minutes? 6 minutes?
What racer would assume that no matter where in the course and what the circustances of the crash are, you can be rescued within a certain time frame?
This will be settled and the lawyer will make enough to buy a real nice boat, hopefully he will sleep well.
What racer would assume that no matter where in the course and what the circustances of the crash are, you can be rescued within a certain time frame?
This will be settled and the lawyer will make enough to buy a real nice boat, hopefully he will sleep well.
12-09-2011, 09:05 PM
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Trying not to point fingers and state this toward any of the 3 that passed, but I have to say this quote pisses me off.
"and there was no reason whatsoever for him to drown"
I am the type of guy that trys very hard to cover my own asz and wants to take complete responsibility of my actions. now you look at these million dollar boats, teams, & drivers who knows the high risk every time they strap in and race. with all the money why wouldnt they have an SCBA right next to them? You can get a 10 min SCBA for about $500. I truly applaud any race team that does but for anyone that does not I would let 100% neglagence fall on their shoulders! Rules or no rules.
Again I do not know the circumstances in which the recent losses occured, just feelings on community in general!
"and there was no reason whatsoever for him to drown"
I am the type of guy that trys very hard to cover my own asz and wants to take complete responsibility of my actions. now you look at these million dollar boats, teams, & drivers who knows the high risk every time they strap in and race. with all the money why wouldnt they have an SCBA right next to them? You can get a 10 min SCBA for about $500. I truly applaud any race team that does but for anyone that does not I would let 100% neglagence fall on their shoulders! Rules or no rules.
Again I do not know the circumstances in which the recent losses occured, just feelings on community in general!
Fact is...RACING IS A RISK!!! That is what is so exciting about it. That is why we all love it and why these guys are our heros. Safety, no safety, not enough safety, this guy, that guy, BULLS!!TT!! You can be as safe as you want and accidents still happen. It is up to the INDIVIDUAL to learn as much as they can and protect themelves as best as they can if getting involved. We need to quit blaming everybody else (I believe someone else said this too).
Everyone has a choice race or don't race. If I thought that day the circumstances were not safe...boat on the trailer.
12-09-2011, 09:07 PM
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This is sweet. Once the Cardshark thread dies down, we are assured of at least 4 years drama in a new thread with no actual questions answered. Carry on, Garth!
Maybe IB hired Allweissas back-up for the eventual end of Cardshark thread.
Maybe IB hired Allweissas back-up for the eventual end of Cardshark thread.
Last edited by LaughingCat; 12-09-2011 at 09:26 PM. Reason: Why not hit the home run!
