Ted G

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By nature our legal system is an adversarial one. The only person in the courtroom that needs to be unbiased is the Judge and Jury. The fact that Mike A has long standing issues with John C may just make him work a little harder and dig a little deeper. As I stated before Mike A is exactly the person who should be litigating this from the Gratton family's perspective.
Having said that if his/their actions kill the sport then they will have to live with that. At this point all the rest of us are just spectators.

Catastrophe

Point taken

BUT

" JUST SPECTATORS" is the whole reason the sport exists.

Cash Bar

That Fla law will have Poker Run sponsors running away as well. Say GOODBYE to the whole Key West experience.

And St. Pete, Jacksonville, Destin, etc.

FARGIN' ICEHOLES

BraceYourself

I've been a sponsor to poker runs in the past. I will say I never will again. The hastle to a sponsor of just getting a letter isn't even worth the risk. These events are dangerous in nature.
I never knew about this law. Most sponsors just feel that donating money is an easy way to say thanks. But when thanks turns into lawyers asking for this and that... Well... No thanks.

Catastrophe

This will effect every state and here in Canada.

The internet will make sure of that.

The average merchant wont want to delve into whether their state's law is similar to Florida or not.

Way to much risk.

The ROI for any event sponsor is negligible or zero.

How many plumbing jobs do you think the local guy in KW picked up because he stroked a check for that race ?

Answer.....NONE

rchevelle71

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Point taken, but just doesnt seem fair to all parties. I agree he is the best person due to his knowledge of offshore racing, but kinda leaves SBI and their insurance co's at a disadvatage.

PhantomChaos

Don't be so negative! I bet he got his OWN plumbing worked on while having a company paid vacation in Key West watching boat races and tossing back a cocktail.

Mike A didn't write that law! His job is not to enforce the law either......it is to represent his client's interest.

F1-00 Racing

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Everyone has some valuable insight however in this "fishing expedition" of collecting everyone's insurance policy information, has Mr. Alweiss requested the policy information of Page Motorsports? Did Mr Page require Joey to sign a waiver to race in his team's boat with him? Mr Page states that he attempted to help Joey escape from the cockpit, was Joey kicking or screaming? If not, does that mean that he was unconscious? If he was unconscious, then drowning cant possibly be the only cause of death, he also suffered a head trauma in the event that he possibly was unconscious....

In Mr Page's subsequent car accident on the way home from Key West, what was the response time of EMS? Did they have the "jaws of life" on their truck? Is it required to have the "jaws of life" on their truck? Should they now be sued due to inadequate procedures?

With all of us living in a "spill a cup of coffee on lap and get 2 mil from McDonalds" society, and by the looks of spaghetti lawsuits(throw enough against the wall, something is bound to stick) about to happen, shouldnt everyone involved be named in this lawsuit?

I have tremendous amount of respect for Mr Page and the whole Page Motorsports team, but with Mr Alweiss being allowed to tear down every aspect of pleasure boating here in Florida, does that make it to where certain producers, sponsors, etc are the only targets is right? Remember, we do live in a CYA society as well and with the can of worms being opened by Mr Alweiss, he shouldnt be too selective as to whom he sues or doesnt.

boatme

I disagree, he is making it his job to exploit the issue because the law says he can. He does NOT have to do anything

ActiveThunder

Hey, Marc. Did they literally name all the sponsors as well? I know we've gone over this before but I don't think I ever asked you that particular question.