Ilmor High-Performance unveils MV8 570 Small Block
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hmmmmmm.......
It is great that we have a choice vs Merc, but not because Merc ever did anything wrong to me, just the opposite. I just like options. (we can also build custom at our price points)
Last rig I chose a 710 which was the latest bestest at the time, and I love my Ilmor plus Id add- ownership experience to date has been superb.
The 570 although bound to be a superb mill, it offers different choices.
In a 565 vs 570 round its harder for me to make the call.
Both Iron Block aluminum head engines. So right away its not as cool as it could theoretically be.
Which one could be bored stroked the most at rebuild?
Ones a BBC, the other an LSX.
BBC has tons pf parts, at very reasonable prices and rebuild costs, plus a plethora of options such as going back to a more reliable super high perf manifold.
LSX-a few and getting more, but its an answer to a non problem.
Whats the retail price of both engines?
Tough one here....
UD
It is great that we have a choice vs Merc, but not because Merc ever did anything wrong to me, just the opposite. I just like options. (we can also build custom at our price points)
Last rig I chose a 710 which was the latest bestest at the time, and I love my Ilmor plus Id add- ownership experience to date has been superb.
The 570 although bound to be a superb mill, it offers different choices.
In a 565 vs 570 round its harder for me to make the call.
Both Iron Block aluminum head engines. So right away its not as cool as it could theoretically be.
Which one could be bored stroked the most at rebuild?
Ones a BBC, the other an LSX.
BBC has tons pf parts, at very reasonable prices and rebuild costs, plus a plethora of options such as going back to a more reliable super high perf manifold.
LSX-a few and getting more, but its an answer to a non problem.
Whats the retail price of both engines?
Tough one here....
UD
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Let see what the two curves are though before we declare a winner.
If the 565 has an equal or better curve without the VVT would it be "better"?
Still the thought of a twin re-power from a single 710 to twin 570's is a really cool proposition hmmmm.....
UD
Last edited by Uncle Dave; 02-20-2012 at 03:34 PM. Reason: redundant word removed
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True-it does not.
Let see what the two curves are though before we declare a winner.
If the 565 has an equal or better without curve without the VVT would it be "better"?
Still the thought of a twin re-power from a single 710 to twin 570's is a really cool proposition hmmmm.....
UD
Let see what the two curves are though before we declare a winner.
If the 565 has an equal or better without curve without the VVT would it be "better"?
Still the thought of a twin re-power from a single 710 to twin 570's is a really cool proposition hmmmm.....
UD
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Yes, it would be interesting to see those curves laying on top of one another. Even so though, before declaring a winner we still should keep in mind the 570 is small and lighter, so for those boats that may have twin small blocks, going to twin big blocks is not a possibility. This can be a great alternative for us folks stuck with small blocks.
This sector is hot right now with Mast and their LSX 600 Mill (it should also be noted Mast acquired talent from Ilmors build line)
The Raylar 550 LSM which has an established price point of 22K
Hard for me to imagine a more precise "real" volume assembly line up to Ilmors specs.
Im eager to see it run.
UD
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Back on track.........810 LBS
The posted weight is for ENGINE ONLY. Block has been modified to our Marine standards with complete ILMOR spec internals. Stay tuned for further details!!
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not sure if its in here somewhere but when is the expected availability?
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ILMORdude - Correct me if I'm wrong, but the durability requirement during development was 24 hours at maximum load and wide-open throttle, right?
rlj676 - As fas as low-end torque goes, I believe I heard a spec of 400 lb-ft at 2500 rpm. Variable cam timing is a wonderful thing. Bear in mind, too, that you'll get an additional 15% torque gain because this engine can be geared shorter than a 5200 rpm engine, so it's equivalent to 460 lb-ft. That should do it. Since this is a derivative of the 522 hp skiboat engine, ILMOR has applied the low-end torque knowledge that they gained in that market.
The line of boatbuilders and engine importers was non-stop at ILMOR Saturday afternoon. The Mercury 565 is apparently not CE-approved for export to Europe...
rlj676 - As fas as low-end torque goes, I believe I heard a spec of 400 lb-ft at 2500 rpm. Variable cam timing is a wonderful thing. Bear in mind, too, that you'll get an additional 15% torque gain because this engine can be geared shorter than a 5200 rpm engine, so it's equivalent to 460 lb-ft. That should do it. Since this is a derivative of the 522 hp skiboat engine, ILMOR has applied the low-end torque knowledge that they gained in that market.
The line of boatbuilders and engine importers was non-stop at ILMOR Saturday afternoon. The Mercury 565 is apparently not CE-approved for export to Europe...
Do they expect the variable timing to reduce fuel consumption? Also, how does that system work? I don't believe the car LS motors use that?