Diesel-Powered 52-foot Outerlimits Hits 94 mph
05-09-2012, 07:14 PM
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cool to see diesels in fast boat, sabre marine did ok with merlins in early 80's, iveco and isotta-fraschini tried to create interset in the market also. the inlines allow acces and ease of maintenance on engine. a boat is like running and engine on dyno full time, thats why shortcuts lead to short life on engines. i would imagine this boat actually still has power in waiting. the newbies to diesels will be disappointed at lack of smoke. the cummins 4.2(mercruiser/VMMotori) pushes pretty good.
05-09-2012, 08:16 PM
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05-10-2012, 12:01 AM
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I think the problem is, the diesel upgrades are very expensive, and often take a performance hit on top of it over a gas engine. The people who could appreciate the extra fuel economy of diesels, can't afford the diesel engines. The people who can afford the diesel engines, can afford not to care about fuel economy and more frequent engine rebuilds. It's a Catch 22.
With fuel prices skyrocketing, I think if they can ever get the price of diesel engines down, there would be a big market. I am sure they are more expensive to build, but are they "that" much more expensive to build? The prices are bit insane.
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05-10-2012, 08:53 PM
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Michael1 was referring to the skater V hull with Cummins in it.
The skater cat, who wants Seateks that the problem there?
Fuel ecomony doesn't matter, you don't buy performance diesels like a Seatek for milage, they drink diesel, they are not effecient like a Cummins or Yanmar.
The price is not the issue for diesel it's still performance and the sound.
Think about the videos posted on here of some Cigarette or Skater idleing around the docks or just go to YouTube it's full of videos like that - gas engines sound coollllll, diesels around the dock sound ***gy (not PC but hey who cares).
Performance - diesels can never run with the gas engines, how many people on here are obsessed with 1-5 mph faster - almost all of them. I ran both Gancia & Ebel, I know how Buzzi did it, the gas boats could always out run those boats in a drag race, it's about starting at a fast pace and maintaining it for 175 miles, make the gas boats try and keep up, they break or are so far behind they can't catch up - no secret, Buzzi had a great game plan and stuck to it no matter what the seas were - you have to love him.
Back to this OL, put this boat against 90% of the fastest boats on here and have a Miami-Nassau-Miaimi race or around LI and this boat will finish ahead of 90% of them that's what diesels are about - medium speeds and steady.
The skater cat, who wants Seateks that the problem there?
Fuel ecomony doesn't matter, you don't buy performance diesels like a Seatek for milage, they drink diesel, they are not effecient like a Cummins or Yanmar.
The price is not the issue for diesel it's still performance and the sound.
Think about the videos posted on here of some Cigarette or Skater idleing around the docks or just go to YouTube it's full of videos like that - gas engines sound coollllll, diesels around the dock sound ***gy (not PC but hey who cares).
Performance - diesels can never run with the gas engines, how many people on here are obsessed with 1-5 mph faster - almost all of them. I ran both Gancia & Ebel, I know how Buzzi did it, the gas boats could always out run those boats in a drag race, it's about starting at a fast pace and maintaining it for 175 miles, make the gas boats try and keep up, they break or are so far behind they can't catch up - no secret, Buzzi had a great game plan and stuck to it no matter what the seas were - you have to love him.
Back to this OL, put this boat against 90% of the fastest boats on here and have a Miami-Nassau-Miaimi race or around LI and this boat will finish ahead of 90% of them that's what diesels are about - medium speeds and steady.
05-11-2012, 08:22 PM
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I hear what you are saying Joe. Personally, I would gladly give up a few mph, and change the soundtrack to save 30-40% in fuel costs, but that's me. Things in the West Coast are more spread out, and the gas costs are higher, too.
Michael
