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Old 07-12-2013, 07:07 PM
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Kelly O,

I think that is the best looking 35' Fountain on the planet (have always thought so since you first posted pictures of your boat), with great hardware (transom picture). I am sure many others agree with me too, that is one helluva Fountain.

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light layups.... steps... props.. not being real OFFSHORE capable

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:48 PM
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speed wax...

for some weird reason, all teh old offshore boats were built like tanks, well at least they were after aranow broke one of his race boats in half... it's kind of difficult to break a boat in half when you are racing in a white cap free area..

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Old 07-12-2013, 11:55 PM
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[QUOTE=ratman;3958040]im not buying dat chit... the new boats are all flat bottoms made to run in huge 1 foot seas...rm

there were a LOT of days that i went out in my mistress and was the only offshore boat out there other than freighters, cuz nobody else wanted any part of that big water i would run in... that thing beat the waves down, it ran faster in big water cuz less of the hull was in it... any 35' new boat with a single 525hp would out run me in 1 foot seas, and i was running 572's @ making 660hp a side...rm
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
Talk to richie powers about this and you will be very surprised how little the steps make a difference. For example, take a straight bottom 38TG, build it to the same weight as the new twin steps, put 525's with ITS transoms, high x, and 5 blade props. I bet it would be very very close to running with the TS boat. Most likely 2-3 mph in perfect conditions.
WOW!!!

I guess what the other guy said about marketing is correct then. From what you hear around the traps steps are the be all and end all!

Whats the difference in weight from lets say a 15 year old boat to a current one?
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It's not just the weight, it's the props (5,6,7 blade compared to 3 blade of yesterday), shorties (or #4,5,6, arneson/bpm) and "stock" (525, 700, 850, 1075, 1100, 1350) power compared to years ago...

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Old 07-13-2013, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Smarty
Kelly O,

I think that is the best looking 35' Fountain on the planet (have always thought so since you first posted pictures of your boat), with great hardware (transom picture). I am sure many others agree with me too, that is one helluva Fountain.

Thanks Smarty. My posting here is to confirm some of the thoughts as to why the newer configurations add performance. Yes, this is a small boat but it amazes every person how well it handles slop and reasonable offshore conditions. Full stagger, balance, and big props keeping the boat hooked to the water allow it to outrun many larger hulls while remaining very stable. I am able to run very little trim at high speeds, making the boat's actual running surface greater than a larger boat that is trimmed loose in an attempt to find speed.

It is not all about total weight either, as this boat is listed at 9800lbs which is significantly more than my previous 03 35 was.
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Originally Posted by Kelly O
Thanks Smarty. My posting here is to confirm some of the thoughts as to why the newer configurations add performance. Yes, this is a small boat but it amazes every person how well it handles slop and reasonable offshore conditions. Full stagger, balance, and big props keeping the boat hooked to the water allow it to outrun many larger hulls while remaining very stable. I am able to run very little trim at high speeds, making the boat's actual running surface greater than a larger boat that is trimmed loose in an attempt to find speed.

It is not all about total weight either, as this boat is listed at 9800lbs which is significantly more than my previous 03 35 was.
Kelly,

Is that with #6's or bravo's?

Seems heavy for what most are calling a 30-31 foot boat.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Kelly,

Is that with #6's or bravo's?

Seems heavy for what most are calling a 30-31 foot boat.
I know the answer to the drive question: #6' Tim Sharkey had a thread with pictures of this boat, it is gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
Kelly,

Is that with #6's or bravo's?

Seems heavy for what most are calling a 30-31 foot boat.
Transmissions, #6 drives will add to the weight versus the Bravo drive type boat. If the layup is any heavier (bare boat versus bare boat) Kelly O will have to answer that. Good question. Would it have been laid up heavier to account for the heavier transom hardware ?
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