I agree with TooOld. He has more car racing experience then most of us have boat experience. I will be the first to take him up one side and down the other about his boat driving skills however that has NOTHING to do with his car driving skills. I talked to people today that have raced against him in cars and they all say he is a good driver and wants to win. They say he is a lot stuck up but I guess that can happen when you are in his situation. I like to think it would not happen to me but I guess I never know. Anyhow the guy is messed up something horrible. We did not make fun of good old #3 when he went into the wall did we????