price to remove,rebuild and reinstall your boats engines.
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So you go to the next one until you find someone who will let you supply your own stuff. As we speak I am having a cockpit cover made. I made sure he was mobile so the cover could be made at our place and I could track his hours. Then I told him I was supplying my own materials, asked what his hourly rate was. Now I know how much the materials cost, and he is working at our building so I can tell exactly how many hours he has into it.
I know engine building is more complicated than cockpit cover making, but materials/parts are the same whether John Force orders them himself or I order them no?
I know engine building is more complicated than cockpit cover making, but materials/parts are the same whether John Force orders them himself or I order them no?
Often times the machinist has relationships with suppliers and gets great pricing. He adds 10% and makes a few bucks and you get the right stuff the first time for right around the same price as you would as a retail customer.
Also, when the parts you bring him that will inevitably be wrong don't work out, the clock keeps running while he sorts it out.
Trying to bird dog the build will get you nowhere.
I'm an electrician by trade. Whenever a customer tries to cut my throat with this crap, I run! If a guy wants to start out by being cheap, I know it will be a pain in my a$$ the entire job.
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I had a single engine boat 10 years ago. To remove the engine, rebuild the engine (just rings, bearings, gaskets, valve job, dyno, more like a freshen up), and reinstall, was 7,000 dollars.
The way I see it, is this. If you dont like paying shop rates, do it yourself. But don't be fooled. So many guys think they are gonna save tens of thousands by building it themselves. Then when its all said and done, they realize how much money parts cost, and how little labor cost is involved.
Take assembling a short block for example. Guys think, hey, Im gonna assemble this baby myself. They have the machine shop do all the machine work on the blocks, boring, honing, balancing, etc, then they get it home and start assembling the parts they bought. They think initially they are gonna save thousands. Then they realized, they saved maybe a few hundred bucks, rather than just having the machine shop put it together, when its all said and done. Not to mention the cost of tools to properly measure and assemble things. And you definitly arent saving anything when the $hit comes apart, because you didnt know what the hell you were doing.
The way I see it, is this. If you dont like paying shop rates, do it yourself. But don't be fooled. So many guys think they are gonna save tens of thousands by building it themselves. Then when its all said and done, they realize how much money parts cost, and how little labor cost is involved.
Take assembling a short block for example. Guys think, hey, Im gonna assemble this baby myself. They have the machine shop do all the machine work on the blocks, boring, honing, balancing, etc, then they get it home and start assembling the parts they bought. They think initially they are gonna save thousands. Then they realized, they saved maybe a few hundred bucks, rather than just having the machine shop put it together, when its all said and done. Not to mention the cost of tools to properly measure and assemble things. And you definitly arent saving anything when the $hit comes apart, because you didnt know what the hell you were doing.
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Old man always said nothing is ever free and and that includes labor. every mechanic, dry waller, carpenter says they dont make any money. I tend not to beleive that otherwise they wouldnt be doing it.
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Seems like more and more people expect you to work for free when it's a labor type job. Guy I know got a job at a bank in which he had no experience, or degree. Makes considerably more than I do as a firefighter or mechanic. Yet thought $100 for pads installed in his car was high...
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Between $5000 and $50,000 is a good estimate but it depends on whether you want to stay and watch, good parts or your parts, if your parts am I getting paid for the time I spent specing, phone time or looking them up (I like your parts......no warranty), blower, crabs, pistons, rings, good parts or crap parts, does it need exhaust, build it to proper specs or just slap it together, salt water (don't get me going with that)........lots of variables so ya 5-50.
Carry on I am going to grab some burger and buns and head to the bar and have them cook for me (to my specs)........ might as well grab a 6 pack on the way to make up for the cheap fack that facked me out of my lunch money.
Carry on I am going to grab some burger and buns and head to the bar and have them cook for me (to my specs)........ might as well grab a 6 pack on the way to make up for the cheap fack that facked me out of my lunch money.
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brian I get your point and I know your probably being sarcastic. But the OP did say stock 454s which if you paif 50 grand even 25 grand to rebuild a stock 454 you would need your head examined.