Should I Get In The Boat Building Business?
08-30-2014, 12:43 PM
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Should I Get In The Boat Building Business?
This ad has been running for quite some time:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
08-30-2014, 01:29 PM
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Sy (spelling) the owner of Commander Boats called me thru the grapevine about 4 months ago wanting to know if I knew anyone looking to by some boat molds. He wanted to see if I wanted the 28 Cig mold or anyone that would. IMO building new boats in todays market is a losing investment to produce for the average to above average boat buying person(s). It seems just the high end new stuff sells and some new models of CC boats plus a ton of Pontoon boats and about 2 or 3 wakeboard boat brands, (Malibu, Mastercraft).
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
Last edited by BUP; 08-30-2014 at 01:43 PM.
08-30-2014, 02:20 PM
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people who have years of experience and already own the molds and already have the workforce set up and running can't stay in business building and selling boats...
08-30-2014, 04:42 PM
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Sy (spelling) the owner of Commander Boats called me thru the grapevine about 4 months ago wanting to know if I knew anyone looking to by some boat molds. He wanted to see if I wanted the 28 Cig mold or anyone that would. IMO building new boats in todays market is a losing investment to produce for the average to above average boat buying person(s). It seems just the high end new stuff sells and some new models of CC boats plus a ton of Pontoon boats and about 2 or 3 wakeboard boat brands, (Malibu, Mastercraft).
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
08-30-2014, 04:56 PM
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Sy (spelling) the owner of Commander Boats called me thru the grapevine about 4 months ago wanting to know if I knew anyone looking to by some boat molds. He wanted to see if I wanted the 28 Cig mold or anyone that would. IMO building new boats in todays market is a losing investment to produce for the average to above average boat buying person(s). It seems just the high end new stuff sells and some new models of CC boats plus a ton of Pontoon boats and about 2 or 3 wakeboard boat brands, (Malibu, Mastercraft).
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
Thinking who really is kickin in the V hull glass market would be Yamaha jet drive boats and for the sportboat V hull I/O side maybe Sunsation and Shockwave who has build the most lately but not setting sales records for the not extreme rich boat buyer. I really can not think of any v- hull Rec / family or sportboat manufacturer who is knocking them dead with boat sales. Just my 2c
08-30-2014, 04:58 PM
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This ad has been running for quite some time:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
When veterans builders can't make it happen, why would you think you could?
08-30-2014, 05:16 PM
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Thought Sunsation built 2 or 3 - 288's and couple of 32's and one 36 this year - maybe it was last year. Also Sea Ray family Rec boats sales (not Cruisers ) are off 75% from their best selling years. Just saying.
V hull glass I/O's is way down across the board.
V hull glass I/O's is way down across the board.
08-30-2014, 05:26 PM
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This ad has been running for quite some time:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bod/4625052763.html
Says he has the 28 Cigarette mold and others. He is on Corona, CA just up the freeway from me.
Could he really have the original Cigarette mold?
It would be cool to pop out some 28 Cig's but truth be told, I have zero experience or knowledge about layup hulls.
08-30-2014, 05:36 PM
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here is the lastest data that I have from the top 27 states where boats sales somewhat see #'s for the end of MAY 2014.
Glass I/O & inboard 14 ft thru 30 ft sold 4,688 new boats. last year sametime sale were 5,272 for a 11.2 % decrease in these sales. Millions of boaters in the USA and 99% all states have their boatshows done with before May.
4,688 new boat sales 14 - 30 ft counting for I/O's and inboards from Jan 1 thru May 31, 2014 and that's it. keep in mind glass Deckboats are included in this as well.
Wakeboard boats sold 2,374 new boats from Jan 1 thru May 31, 2014. No far off from 14 - 30ft I/O's & inboards. Wakeboard boats size range is mostly 20 to 24 ft compare to 14 thru 30 - I/Os & Inboards. Wakeboards boats sales had a 12.8 increase compared to sametime last year #'s of 2,104 of new boat sales.
Really not worth doing sterndrives any more for those manufacturers. Wonder what Volvo Penta thinks because they do not have outboards to sell but they are huge in the overseas market for marine diesels.
Glass I/O & inboard 14 ft thru 30 ft sold 4,688 new boats. last year sametime sale were 5,272 for a 11.2 % decrease in these sales. Millions of boaters in the USA and 99% all states have their boatshows done with before May.
4,688 new boat sales 14 - 30 ft counting for I/O's and inboards from Jan 1 thru May 31, 2014 and that's it. keep in mind glass Deckboats are included in this as well.
Wakeboard boats sold 2,374 new boats from Jan 1 thru May 31, 2014. No far off from 14 - 30ft I/O's & inboards. Wakeboard boats size range is mostly 20 to 24 ft compare to 14 thru 30 - I/Os & Inboards. Wakeboards boats sales had a 12.8 increase compared to sametime last year #'s of 2,104 of new boat sales.
Really not worth doing sterndrives any more for those manufacturers. Wonder what Volvo Penta thinks because they do not have outboards to sell but they are huge in the overseas market for marine diesels.
Last edited by BUP; 08-30-2014 at 05:41 PM.
08-30-2014, 07:46 PM
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I can barely make any money building cars!
Yeah, I really have no desire to get into the boat building business, nor do I have the knowledge. I was more just interested about the 28 Cigarette mold having once owned a 28 Cig. Was wondering if it was really the Cig mold and how it came to be in So Cal. As a historic boat enthusiast I hate to see it just wasting away.
Yeah, I really have no desire to get into the boat building business, nor do I have the knowledge. I was more just interested about the 28 Cigarette mold having once owned a 28 Cig. Was wondering if it was really the Cig mold and how it came to be in So Cal. As a historic boat enthusiast I hate to see it just wasting away.
