CMI and Miss GEICO Crew Chief Partner On New Headers For Mercury Racing QC4v Engines
02-14-2015, 02:20 PM
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MGRT have you seen the new AMG engines where they are turning the head around and exausting to the center of the V things that make you go Hmmmm http://www.enginelabs.com/news/new-m...00-horsepower/
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02-14-2015, 03:52 PM
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And this was a "slow Monday" news story.
I can usually predict which stories will catch fire and which won't. The traffic, as evidenced by this thread and the 2,000-plus reads on speedonthewater.com, completely caught me by surprise.
Carry on gentlemen.
I can usually predict which stories will catch fire and which won't. The traffic, as evidenced by this thread and the 2,000-plus reads on speedonthewater.com, completely caught me by surprise.
Carry on gentlemen.
02-14-2015, 05:50 PM
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What's interesting is that CMI did the original headers when merc was doing R&D on the motor before it was released, and then Merc went with a casting. I'm not trying to say which is better, just thought that to be intriguing.
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02-15-2015, 01:48 PM
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Do you understand cost difference. They (Merc) sell the cast manifold for less then the cost of just the stainless material to build the headers. So Ya its a no brainer....
02-15-2015, 11:37 PM
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POSTED BY BAWANA, post #16:
"as far as CMI's being leakers well if you don't over heat them, flush them when used in salt, and plumb enough water to them, they do work... Most that cry about them didn't even buy them new.. they were someone elses used up, not taking care of stuff."
My reply,
That is a half inaccurate assumption about the leaking headers in the past, I had over 10 original purchasers contact me to commence a class action lawsuit against CMI, some years ago. There are plaintiffs that suffered harm, some were and are very knowledgeable boaters, and mechanically inclined individuals.
The lawsuit did not go forward because I was and I am not well financed enough to carry the suit forward in a competent manner ( I am a criminal and DUI attorney), the law firm that was backing me the suit and another New Jersey attorney with over 30 years of practicing law backed out after I had put some significant time in preparing to move the suit forward, due to the lack of funding (money). I took it on the chin, as did the owners of the failed CMI headers. I was banned from OSO for a short period of time due to this very issue and my position.
The issue is dead to me, but the facts were real and prove-able, your assumption is 100% inaccurate; the issue of the 525 headers failures were real, damages occurrred due topotentially bad design, potentially bad welds, possibly poor material quality control, ... metallurgists, design engineers, industry experts would support this position.
Now to these stainless steel welded headers for the turbo, I like the Geico guys, I want the headers to be a success, not fail for them, and if the header fails, figure out why, cure the problem so that the purchasing public has a good quality part that will work for the recreational boater. I hope CMI and Geico succeed, it is a sickening feeling when the recreational boater's motor(s) hydrolock and cause thousands of dollars of damage due to faulty marine header. I have not experienced that failure ever, but other mechanical woes. I hope it works for Geico, CMI, and Mercury, and there will be less less b*tching and more happy boaters.
I am hoping the product succeeds and Geico kicks ass on the race course.
"as far as CMI's being leakers well if you don't over heat them, flush them when used in salt, and plumb enough water to them, they do work... Most that cry about them didn't even buy them new.. they were someone elses used up, not taking care of stuff."
My reply,
That is a half inaccurate assumption about the leaking headers in the past, I had over 10 original purchasers contact me to commence a class action lawsuit against CMI, some years ago. There are plaintiffs that suffered harm, some were and are very knowledgeable boaters, and mechanically inclined individuals.
The lawsuit did not go forward because I was and I am not well financed enough to carry the suit forward in a competent manner ( I am a criminal and DUI attorney), the law firm that was backing me the suit and another New Jersey attorney with over 30 years of practicing law backed out after I had put some significant time in preparing to move the suit forward, due to the lack of funding (money). I took it on the chin, as did the owners of the failed CMI headers. I was banned from OSO for a short period of time due to this very issue and my position.
The issue is dead to me, but the facts were real and prove-able, your assumption is 100% inaccurate; the issue of the 525 headers failures were real, damages occurrred due topotentially bad design, potentially bad welds, possibly poor material quality control, ... metallurgists, design engineers, industry experts would support this position.
Now to these stainless steel welded headers for the turbo, I like the Geico guys, I want the headers to be a success, not fail for them, and if the header fails, figure out why, cure the problem so that the purchasing public has a good quality part that will work for the recreational boater. I hope CMI and Geico succeed, it is a sickening feeling when the recreational boater's motor(s) hydrolock and cause thousands of dollars of damage due to faulty marine header. I have not experienced that failure ever, but other mechanical woes. I hope it works for Geico, CMI, and Mercury, and there will be less less b*tching and more happy boaters.
I am hoping the product succeeds and Geico kicks ass on the race course.
Last edited by Smarty; 02-15-2015 at 11:47 PM.
