DCB Verado 400R Outboard-Equipped 29-Footer Hits 108 MPH
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03-22-2015, 03:54 PM
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03-22-2015, 04:35 PM
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Do a quick search for them - pics are all over the net...compliments of thehulltruth.com
03-22-2015, 04:47 PM
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Those are the same motors that were on the Fazza boat end of last season. Funny how Fazza pulled away with the them and now they only run 5th.
I would bet when Fazza had them the HP was closer to 400hp and now they are a real 300hp. No match with extra weight for the 2 stroke.
A 15" version that does not look like it was built in a garage would be nice. I am sure Kap's boat with 400hp would run 125 or so.
I would bet when Fazza had them the HP was closer to 400hp and now they are a real 300hp. No match with extra weight for the 2 stroke.
A 15" version that does not look like it was built in a garage would be nice. I am sure Kap's boat with 400hp would run 125 or so.
03-22-2015, 08:11 PM
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Is 5 blades common in X-Cat or was the set up in the pic to add stern lift to compensate for the extra lbs of the 4 strokes?
Hering advised to run 3 or 4 blades on a 28 a while back on XS'... this isn't an attempt to derail - just a question that plays into getting the most out of the heavy 400R on cats
+1 on Double Rigged's comment about a proper looking 15" mid...hopefully we will see it, The power head is there, gearcase is (somewhat) there- longevity under 400hp?? - just need someone at Merc racing to OK the production of the mids to open up more sales potential for the 400R
Hering advised to run 3 or 4 blades on a 28 a while back on XS'... this isn't an attempt to derail - just a question that plays into getting the most out of the heavy 400R on cats
+1 on Double Rigged's comment about a proper looking 15" mid...hopefully we will see it, The power head is there, gearcase is (somewhat) there- longevity under 400hp?? - just need someone at Merc racing to OK the production of the mids to open up more sales potential for the 400R
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03-23-2015, 06:54 AM
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These Mercury 400R Verado's are heavy. I am waiting for the 400R X-Cat motors with 15 inch mids and external steering. Currently the 4 Stroke Future... No. 4 boat is running them in the WPPA X-Cat series. They are doing very well coming in 5th overall in qualifying with a female driver. They are not running for points just R&D before they adopt this engine as an alternative to the 2.5.
I have some intel from a current racer who has driven the boat with these motors and his response was "WOW". That's enough for me to be convinced these X-Cat Verado motors are going to be the ticket.
I have some intel from a current racer who has driven the boat with these motors and his response was "WOW". That's enough for me to be convinced these X-Cat Verado motors are going to be the ticket.
03-23-2015, 09:20 AM
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Not only 5th with a skirt behind the wheel, but this boat is also significantly longer that the other boats in the class. I think the class min is 25', this boat is 33'. These guys generally race in very calm water, so the added length is a handicap (not to mention the longer hulls have to carry a weight penalty). I watched the demo drag race they have on you tube, while the 2.5 did narrowly win the race, the hull the 4 strokes were on looked a LOT bigger... it would have been nice to see an apples to apples comparison.
I agree, i wonder what the weight comparison of the boats were (without motor). watching the digital race it is obvious the 2 stroke gets a phenomenal start. they were automatically 11 meters ahead with in the first 5 seconds of the race, however the 4 stroke really held with them and only finished 15 meters behind. if the 4 stroke would have gotten as good of a start, i believe it would have been a very close race. i would like to see them run a couple more times
03-23-2015, 01:18 PM
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these x cat hulls are a lot lower profile,wider,lighter and capsule is further back
to get max lift with control with the designed 280 (375lb) motor to get cg just right
if u were to toss the verado at 625-650 on back and go,,,,
boat would not handle well enough to race
as why new hull was designed for the motors,,,,gained length,,,to help compensate transom
I built/raced a few F!/2 tunnels getting the o/b cg just right is a workout
I agree about the debut last yrs race
in practice it was off the pace,,,,
in main it was faster,,,,,,all it takes is a laptop to move hp around
90% of the 15s will go to uim racing
so I believe very few would build a new hull with them
or do a resro on an older hull with the price tag they have
mercs trying to get away from the 2.5
as why it was debued 15" on x cat,,thats its market
on most pleasure hulls the 20" motor will be used
as pleasure boats are taller sided and don't want to wash motors
to get max lift with control with the designed 280 (375lb) motor to get cg just right
if u were to toss the verado at 625-650 on back and go,,,,
boat would not handle well enough to race
as why new hull was designed for the motors,,,,gained length,,,to help compensate transom
I built/raced a few F!/2 tunnels getting the o/b cg just right is a workout
I agree about the debut last yrs race
in practice it was off the pace,,,,
in main it was faster,,,,,,all it takes is a laptop to move hp around
90% of the 15s will go to uim racing
so I believe very few would build a new hull with them
or do a resro on an older hull with the price tag they have
mercs trying to get away from the 2.5
as why it was debued 15" on x cat,,thats its market
on most pleasure hulls the 20" motor will be used
as pleasure boats are taller sided and don't want to wash motors
