All I know is that alot of the "high brow" yachtsmen changed their tune about our noise boats after we had a poker run there this year ....... all their wifes wanted rides and we dumped about $7500.00 into the clubs profits for the year !!!!! They were real sweet on us after that !!!!!!! As a matter a fact ..... one of the big Sea Ray guys bought Springbrooks 41 Apache after being involved in the run........ Every time I've taken a die hard sailboater out for a ride they are always pleasantly surprised at how much they enjoyed it!!!!!