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Old 08-01-2015, 09:42 AM
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Anyone know why the Coast Guard left the overturned boat in the water after they found it? Didn't see any reports that it was brought in at the time, would think that with an investigation of the boat they may be able to come up with some more accurate details . i.e.. engine failure, electronics on board etc..
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I know $300 bucks isn't a lot but how many of us have an epirb on board? For $50 I bet just about everyone who goes off-shore would have one. As soon as it hits the water it is activated and the Coast guard knows where to go. It's just a thought.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CasinoRunner
Anyone know why the Coast Guard left the overturned boat in the water after they found it? Didn't see any reports that it was brought in at the time, would think that with an investigation of the boat they may be able to come up with some more accurate details . i.e.. engine failure, electronics on board etc..
I believe the boat was anchored when found and then later recovered by Sea Tow or someone.
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A plb or Epirb signal is only picked up by a satellite every 4 to 6 hours.. Than it takes the CG an hour to determine if the signal is a real emergency by calling the contact number that the unit is registered to.

After that they will dispatch a Lear jet to investigate followed by the helicopter or C130 depending on the type of emergency.

Now if they knew the boys were missing they would have had to still wait for the signal to be picked up by a current satellite .

Best bet when going offshore is file a float plan with the Coast Guard..

Tell them when you are leaving ,where you are going and what course you will be heading and what you final destination is with you approximate arrival time.

If they do not hear back from you when you at your agreed upon time they call you up on the radio and if no answer they come look for you.

Easy as that .

I spent 2 days bobbing around in the Gulf in 15 foot waves on a dismasted 53 foot sailboat.and it was Hell, I would not wanted to have been in the water that whole time.

.CG came out in a Lear about 8 hours after i set off the Epirb

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Old 08-01-2015, 05:43 PM
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EPIRB or not they were 14 years old. We all have theory's but I live among alot of these kids. They are way more experienced that a lot of people give them credit. In south florida you drive a boat instead of riding a bike. Some of these kids handle their skiffs like pros fisherman. They were well trained and have the skills to prove it. I think this whole incident is more catastrophic. They went out, got into a storm and hit a swell. The boat went over and they were already under or too confused after the accident to get to the boat. Thats it.... no floating, no life jacket. They flipped and were unfortunately killed and or drowned last Friday. Too many planes and personnel were out there looking. If they were alive they would have found them.
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:41 PM
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^ Yes, you are right. The young age is what makes it so sad. We had another drowning here on Lake St. Clair last night. Still looking for the body of a fire chief who jumped in the lake to retrieve a hat and went under.
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
A plb or Epirb signal is only picked up by a satellite every 4 to 6 hours.. Than it takes the CG an hour to determine if the signal is a real emergency by calling the contact number that the unit is registered to.
How long ago was this? According to this video from ACR the low orbit satellites pass every 90minutes and the high orbit satellites are in constant view and if there is a GPS coordinate built into the signal they can receive the location. Maybe the signal times and system has improved?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m78j0TIeVg
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
I know $300 bucks isn't a lot but how many of us have an epirb on board? For $50 I bet just about everyone who goes off-shore would have one. As soon as it hits the water it is activated and the Coast guard knows where to go. It's just a thought.
Again, you are kidding yourself. Coast guard safety checks are free......how many do them?

Not being a dick, the cost is not the issue, stupidly is.
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Education is the key to safety.

If we can afford to run a boat we can afford the right safety gear. How many BM's always carry an EPIRB and check their fire extinguisher(s) regularly? I have been guilty on both counts. I can well afford the small price but get lazy and apathetic about safety. I take it for granted I will never get into trouble and my mobile phone would save me anyway. Truth is, I am way wrong.

Go check your safety gear before your next day out.

It takes an incident like this to wake people up. If the end result makes a few boaters update their gear then some good can still come out of a terrible situation.

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Old 08-03-2015, 06:02 PM
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Wow, now the boat they found is missing.......
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