Definitely not to make this a pissing contest, I think all the sleds are great (well except one), but to say that a "properly tuned XCR800 will eat a T-cat" is just wrong. Does the XCR run, yes very well as I have ridden some of the best set up XCR 800's. But everybody wants to compare "set up" sleds to the T-cat. Put a "set up machine" of both against each other and then see what happens. I'm sure everybody has differnt stories to tell and thats fine, but it depends on what kind of riding you are reffering to. Drag, open lake, trail, hard pack, deep fluff etc.. I can honestly say I have a twin that will kill an XCR 800 in the trails and yet be VERY respectably close on a lake. I am not trying to piss on any one brand. I have ridden them all and have my opinions, but those can be different then others. Just don't say one will kill the other when not comparing apples to apples.