Sniper caught? Breaking news..
10-24-2002, 10:43 AM
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Right on CJC!...Events and people like this pair of scumbags conjure up the best of emotions!
TomZ,
I respectfully disagree. When a guy decides to go from being known as John Williams to John Muhammad and is quoted as having "sympathy for Islamic Terrorists" I would think that fits the definition of Islamic Extremist....I agree though that you have to be whacked out of your skull to do what he did
TomZ,
I respectfully disagree. When a guy decides to go from being known as John Williams to John Muhammad and is quoted as having "sympathy for Islamic Terrorists" I would think that fits the definition of Islamic Extremist....I agree though that you have to be whacked out of your skull to do what he did
10-24-2002, 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by TomZ
This/these guy/guys is/are not a "Islamic Extremeist(s)"... the only thing this guy was trying to do was line his pockets. Doing things for a cause that you believe in, well that's one thing... doing things because you're whacked out of your skull, well that's another thing, too. But killing innocent people for the sole purpose of greed (and making it look like some serial killer on top of it) is waaaayyyy beyond low.
Being stuck in the middle of all this (it felt soooo good to be able to walk out of the house this morning and not be worried about being shot) it's hard to even come up with a way to feel about it all.
Let's just hope that this is the end of it.
This/these guy/guys is/are not a "Islamic Extremeist(s)"... the only thing this guy was trying to do was line his pockets. Doing things for a cause that you believe in, well that's one thing... doing things because you're whacked out of your skull, well that's another thing, too. But killing innocent people for the sole purpose of greed (and making it look like some serial killer on top of it) is waaaayyyy beyond low.
Being stuck in the middle of all this (it felt soooo good to be able to walk out of the house this morning and not be worried about being shot) it's hard to even come up with a way to feel about it all.
Let's just hope that this is the end of it.
Thanks.
10-24-2002, 10:51 AM
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Baja Daze,
The step-son was connected to the bank account in Jamaica that the "sniper" was trying to have funds/ransom/$10 million wired to. How is that not a heist?? The extremeist crap is nothing more than sensationalistic journalism. They have been crying "terrorist" since the very beginning. I don't think so.
Heist, heist, heist. Totally.
The step-son was connected to the bank account in Jamaica that the "sniper" was trying to have funds/ransom/$10 million wired to. How is that not a heist?? The extremeist crap is nothing more than sensationalistic journalism. They have been crying "terrorist" since the very beginning. I don't think so.
Heist, heist, heist. Totally.
10-24-2002, 10:56 AM
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TomZ,
I resepectfully disagree. Although they may have been attempting to extort money from U.S. Banks or the government, what Baja Daze is exactly right. You are correct in he is definitely whacked out of his gord, but so are people who die for their cause! Although there has been no release of information tying him to any specific grouip of terrorists to the best of my knowledge, his empathy for terrorist groups, muslim and islamic extremeists, and his actions are CLEARLY that of a TERRORIST!
I resepectfully disagree. Although they may have been attempting to extort money from U.S. Banks or the government, what Baja Daze is exactly right. You are correct in he is definitely whacked out of his gord, but so are people who die for their cause! Although there has been no release of information tying him to any specific grouip of terrorists to the best of my knowledge, his empathy for terrorist groups, muslim and islamic extremeists, and his actions are CLEARLY that of a TERRORIST!
10-24-2002, 11:08 AM
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I didn't say that the men were not terrorists; what I was trying to get across is that these men did not do it for Allah or God or whatever. They did it to get paid. They had the bank account in Jamaica and they had indicated that they wanted an electronic funds transfer which the police said they could not do. How is that not a heist??
10-24-2002, 11:13 AM
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Saw the noon news and reports are the cops found a rifle of .223 caliber in the car and are now doing ballistic tests on it.
They are also wanted in connection to a murder in Alabama(??) that occured outside a liquore store in September.
Lets keep hoping it's them.
They are also wanted in connection to a murder in Alabama(??) that occured outside a liquore store in September.
Lets keep hoping it's them.
10-24-2002, 11:41 AM
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Wanna bet they can't afford legal counsel ?
Then , guess who gets to pay for their lawyers ?
We do....
Maybe Johnnie Cochrane will pop out from under his rock to do it pro bono..
Then , guess who gets to pay for their lawyers ?
We do....
Maybe Johnnie Cochrane will pop out from under his rock to do it pro bono..
10-24-2002, 12:05 PM
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I agree with pulling off a heist as being the prime motive, after all it is money that they demanded. But I'm still of the opinion, that he is an islamic extremist. 1)He is admittedly Islamic and 2)I think we all agree that what he did is a little on the extreme side of things.
That in and of itself is not saying anything towards his affiliations with any one particular group or having terrorist ties.
I must say however, that I'll be damned if what he has done in the last month or so didn't terrorize that region.
That in and of itself is not saying anything towards his affiliations with any one particular group or having terrorist ties.
I must say however, that I'll be damned if what he has done in the last month or so didn't terrorize that region.
10-24-2002, 12:07 PM
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Wes,
I'm afraid you're right...
I'm also willing to say that it'll be months, if not years, before the trial is complete...Let's just watch to see how many ACLU, etc. type groups get all over this one!
I'm afraid you're right...
I'm also willing to say that it'll be months, if not years, before the trial is complete...Let's just watch to see how many ACLU, etc. type groups get all over this one!
