well said jon . . . people like that come an go . . the real OSO members have staying power and credibility. you cant fake that. . . . so once in a while we hafta put the smackdown on some small time wanna be and send him on his way. . .cooler heads always prevail . . eventually that a$$hole will just go away and we will joke about him like the rest . . funny thing is he will always be just what he is . . . well, we all know what that is . . OK, now lets get back to figuring out where to put the bolsters in cuda's boat . .