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    Ninja gm v-12????

    was anyone at the SEMA SHOW ??? heard they had an escalade with a v-12 in it. said it was detuned to 500h.p. for this project, but easily capable of 700-750 with no prob. alum. block & heads. wonder if this is going to production? imagine what it would sound like ,,,,,, 32' skater w/twin blown v-12's. how come no one is using alum. blocks anyway?

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    caddy engine...yea i posted about this i think about a year ago when they were doing prototype testing....very cool idea....i actually think they mentioned its capable of more!....if it does come out you can bet you will see it in a boat sooner or later!

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    GM shows innovative new V12 engine

    Pebble Beach, California - General Motors' new V12 concept engine, called Northstar XV12, showcases several advanced technologies in a fuel efficient, V8-like package.

    This all-new high-technology, high-output 12-cylinder powerplant, featured in the 2002 Cadillac Cien mid-engine concept car, is a 60-degree, all-aluminum dual overhead cam (DOHC) four-valve engine. It displaces 7.5 liters and produces 750 horsepower (560 kW) and 450 lb-ft of torque (610 Nm), yet is packaged in the size of a V8, and able to deliver excellent fuel economy. The engine has integrated advanced technologies for the future developed by GM Powertrain's Advanced Engineering, and assembled in a compact package that GM engineers refer to as "small on the outside, big on the inside."

    The Northstar XV12 represents a unique combination of a nod to the past and a glimpse of the future.

    "The Northstar XV12 provides a realistic look at what could power an assault on the high-end, premium automotive segment," said Fritz Indra, GM Powertrain executive director of advanced engineering. "At the same time it showcases a wealth of new technologies under development at GM Powertrain, many of which will eventually find their way into GM engines of all shapes and sizes."

    The Northstar XV12 is the same length as GM's Vortec 8100 V8, and it has the approximate width and height as the Northstar 4.6-liter and Vortec 6000 V8s.

    "The packaging was probably the biggest challenge we faced, because from the outset we wanted to fit the V12 inside the package of a V8," said Steve Kowalk, GM Powertrain project manager for the Northstar XV12. "We focused on keeping the size down to fit as many different types of vehicles as possible, while maximizing displacement, and then using Displacement on Demand to deliver the required power at all times. We also minimized cylinder bore wall thickness to 7 millimeters and used a rear cam drive to create a more compact package and enable a lower hoodline."

    GM's Displacement on Demand enables the V12 engine to run seamlessly on six cylinders at times to maximize fuel savings, and is only one of several technological advancements showcased on the Northstar XV12. Some of the high-tech features included in Northstar XV12's capabilities: Displacement on Demand

    The cylinder shutdown is enabled through valve deactivation, which is performed by a compact switchable tappet. Cylinder de-activation occurs on the right-hand bank only, which allows the engine to run as a perfectly balanced inline 6-cylinder. The system deactivation and reactivation has a quick response time and the oil system and solenoid layout allows valve switching capability at up to 6000 rpm.

    In May 2001, GM announced that it will implement Displacement on Demand in its trucks and SUVs beginning in 2004.

    Direct Injection Gasoline

    Using a direct-injection gasoline combustion system provides an increase in engine power and also improves fuel economy and cold-start hydrocarbon emissions. The multiple injection set-up also improves emissions and performance through faster catalyst light-off. The single fluid high-pressure fuel injector is centrally located in the combustion chamber, and sprays the fuel vertically down to the piston.

    Variable Cam Phasing

    The use of variable cam phasing helps the Northstar XV12 achieve 90 percent of its maximum torque at 1500 rpm, improves combustion stability at idle, improves fuel economy by reducing pumping losses and can be used to speed up catalyst light-off to significantly improve emissions. It provides internal exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), which is more reliable and cost-effective than an external EGR set-up.

    Variable Intake Manifold

    The Northstar XV12's three-stage variable induction system with tuned primary and secondary pipes results in a flat torque curve. It's a simple, compact and reliable design. Electric variable intake valve actuators enable rapid changes in manifold geometry over conventional pneumatic actuators.

    Rear Chain Timing Drive

    Many of the engine's accessories are run off the rear chain timing drive, creating opportunities for better packaging by eliminating the need for a front engine accessory drive and reducing the engine's overall length, as well as the height of its front end. The robust yet quiet-running chain drives the engine's camshafts, high-pressure fuel pump, oil pump, and hydraulic power-assist steering pump, and also has the potential to drive the water pump and air conditioning compressor.

    36,000-Mile Oil Change Interval

    The Northstar XV12 is designed for 36,000-mile intervals between oil changes. This is achieved through a combination of improved oil sensors and monitors, reduced oil consumption, oil cooling and a larger oil sump capacity.

    The Northstar XV12 project began in late 1999. GM enlisted Cosworth Technology to assist in the project. GM developed the technologies for all the major systems and Cosworth Technology provided the engineering integration of these technologies.
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    Damm about time

    100 hp per liter
    Direct fuel injection
    Overhead cams with variable phasing 90% torque at 1500 RPM
    An intake system that is light years ahead of anything in existence
    Lots of AL U Min Im Um UKs Pronunciation of Aluminum
    Compact size rear accessory drives.
    Looks like an Apache engine to me.
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