Steve 1

Steve,
I knew if I pushed you far enough you would become lucid. It actually makes sense when you string more than two words together. All that name calling was not making too much sense for me.
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Tom that’s a nice try Laughable as it is..BUT it will not work with me, look just answer the questions.
I can also fill this Thread with useless copy/paste drivel

Personally I would suggest a little travel in your life. BTW Have you ever read on Saddams mind set as painted by an Ex concubine?

How many Iraqis have you ever sat down and talked too??

You know Mr. Bush Senior .Cheney .Powell have all spent considerable time in that area with heads of State and the feedback from our Ambassadors gives them a pretty good insight.

Ambassadors gee even I have dined with them.

All I see from your side aside from The Gross Ignorance is a couple Traitors bootlicking in Baghdad What Gives?? Expert?? You rely on second, third ,fourth hand Information.

Allan4

All this article posting is making me dizzy.....

Tom, NOt sure why you are stating that conservatives make more laws to stop behavior of others they disagree with. Dems are the big government people, the ones who make a practice of creating more laws as opposed to enforcing the current ones. I assume that not tolerating the behavior of others includes murder, rape, assualt......are the dems not notorious for being soft on crime and punishment, undermining law and law enforcement?? Too much codeine in your blood stream.

I respect your statements, but you are factually wrong on so many of the things you say. Your philosophies are of someone who is still lighting dumpsters on fire at Woodstock. You speak of North Korea almost fondly.....concerned Bush has spoken negatively about their commie regim that is starving their own people. Who cares?? What, you don't want to hurt their feelings, they have nukes and would like to burn our country to the ground. Who cares what a bunch of communist pigs think about us?? Oh let's be nice so they like us .......you haven't figured out by now that trying to be everyone's freind and not upset anyone is a one way ticket to failure...and in this case...DEATH???!!!???

It's this simpathy crap that has us here in the first place.....this "let's be tolerant of others" crap that has and is threatening our lives. It's this....."let's be less stern and down size the military and let the crooks run free...I.E CLINTON V. BIN LADEN"......HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THIS AS A SERIOUS THREAT TO YOUR LIFE?????????????????? I just DO NOT understand the liberal viewpoint on things. They try the same lousy policies and principles over and over again, only to see them fail. Then, most commonly, feel that ......"well there was just not enough funding", so they dump all sorts of our money into these programs that have failed miserably for years....and when it fails again, they spend more.....like that is the answer.....like the answer to poverty is money. No people, the answer to poverty is not money, it is employment, it is making decisions for your own betterment, it is taking responsibiblity for your own actions=results. So now we are at war and you guys are worried about upseting other countries. Is it just me, or did we see over 3,000 Americans murdered on live TV?? That is what this "let's be freinds" attitude has brought us. I am just baffled beyond sanity as to why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. The more you guys type, the more dillusional I realize the liberals are.

Now wonder the Democratic party is spirling downward.......the public is finally realizing that the modern liberal viewpoint is lunacy, horribly ineffective and just about as close to socialism as any US policy makers have ever been..........

Tom

Maybe they can make it by spring so we can have cheap gas all summer.

Not sure where it came from. Somebody sent it to me as email. I try to include where things come from in case anybody wants to see the rest of the garbage related to it for further entertainment.

Followed the HIV link when I figured out the mistake. Thanks for fixing it. Now THAT one was interesting. Belongs in the "whats your favorite fetish" thread.

Loved the Robert Byrd article. Stinking conservatives even lie and claim to be Democrats. Do they have no morals at all?

Steve,
Sorry you are not comfortable in Amsterdam. Seems it is hard to feel safe even in an all white rich High School anymore. Your missing out on a great time. Where else can you choose your pot at a coffee house, cruise hundreds of hookers on display like Macy's windows, visit the famous banana show(I got to bite the banana right out of her once), clubs open all night, and when you have to pee there is the worlds largest urinal. You don't even need to flush, they do it every other day. Been there twenty times, never any problems. Did almost get mugged in Paris once though. Wimpy Arab guy with a knife no longer than my fingernails. Hang out in the sleasy districts and what do you expect.

Allan4

Yeah....I read on a daily basis the about the thriving industry in Amsterdam, how Jumbo Jets are built in Amsterdam and how Amsterdam is the hub of biotech advancements, and let's not foget how Amsterdam exports about 50% of the globes automobiles. Ahhhh yes........Amsterdam.....certainly the most productive region on the planet.....such a magnetic economy and contribution to the rest of the world.......

Hookers and Pot.....sounds like a great combo to me, maybe that is how you become the most dominate, free society on the planet......with hookers and pot.

Cool place.......but a bad place to footnote in a political debate......

Tom

Never read a painting, but while on acid I thought I could taste "Inna Gadda Da Vita" by Iron Butterfly (is that who played it?)

I had sex once with a woman who claimed to be an ambassador from Japan. She even paid for the hotel and gave me $200.00. Only conversation was 'wow your such a big american" and 'give me more, i can take it." Everything else was in Japanese and I didn't understand any of it, but imagine it had something to do with her religion. (Must have been the same for you with the Iraqees, what with your head under the robes and all.) I didn't let it go to my head though because you have to consider the source. Some stereotypes are true you know. Learned a lot about liberal diplomacy. Did you know they sell tiny condoms labelled large in Japan?

Thank you all for keeping me going while home sick. I have to get some work done tomorrow, but I will try to check in.

Tom

I'm sorry, I thought the political debate ended after post #1. I did get you to think about some things you may never have thought about before though. I'll agree some even that you wish you hadn't.

Gotta hand it to OSO members. Most people can't even mention politics or religion, much less be so blasphemous about them both. I think we bantered about pretty entertainingly.

Allan4

Tom, I'll plainly admit that I am not as knowledgable as yourself or Steve1 on the historical topics and foriegn affairs. But I try to keep up on current pressing issues in America. More so however, I base my arguements from the most practical view possible. I feel that reason, reality and proven methods are of irreplaceable value. I think that changing just to change is risky, but changing for a need and doing so with great insight and research is progress.

Sure, anytime I read these posts I learn and think, but it does not sway me from my practical nature. I like to hear what the opposite side has to say, I feel that is healthy, but I get frustrated with you and Cat man becasue I feel you spin. So, as I read and learn, I also realize that the one certainty in debates is that there are two distinct sides. I choose to go with facts and proven theories, usually whether I like the outcome or not. Much more often than not however, the outcome is predictable. No disrespect, that is just how I base my decisions. I do feel however that most politicians have a dark side we do not want to know. This I feel goes in layers and levels.....and the Clinton bunch is about as bad as they come. But, I am for the least gov involvement possible in our lives, and a great apposer to tyranny and big government. I'll take capitalism over government intervention anyday......it just makes too much sense to me. It's the most practical approach becasue we KNOW it works. Let the market decide, not some elected bone head, whether Dem or Rep.

Cat......I think I may have had something to do with switching topics ............

Allan4

Oh yeah, and I agree totally with the OSO'ers reading and writing this stuff. Probably a small number of people continuing to write and check in, but that really does not matter to me, there are threads I find boring as well. I figure as long as everyone is having fun then so be it........and you say republicans do not tolerate others......

powerqrudy

OK, Cat do you think that the People in Iraq benefit from their own oil ??? yea like they get some kind of profit sharing check like the people who work at Ford and GM???? I doubt tha they put in 7 12hour days so they could save thier money and send their kids to good schools and colleges ?? I dont think so but I could be wrong. Have to go to work guys will check in later.

Steve 1

Steve,
Sorry you are not comfortable in Amsterdam. Seems it is hard to feel safe even in an all white rich High School anymore. Your missing out on a great time. Where else can you choose your pot at a coffee house, cruise hundreds of hookers on display like Macy's windows, visit the famous banana show(I got to bite the banana right out of her once), clubs open all night, and when you have to pee there is the worlds largest urinal. You don't even need to flush, they do it every other day. Been there twenty times, never any problems. Did almost get mugged in Paris once though. Wimpy Arab guy with a knife no longer than my fingernails. Hang out in the sleasy districts and what do you expect.
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What the Hell are you talking about??

Seem's like it is impossable to get a straight answer from you!

Now you are having Flashbacks from Iraq we move to Ansterdam.

BTW Tom in case you did not Know AMSTERDAM, July 30 (IslamOnline) – A population statistic in the Netherlands unveiled that Islam comes on top of the list of religions in the capital Amsterdam. Other religions, such as Christianity (Catholics and Protestants), Judaism and other registered religions come after Islam.