Steve, I drive by the Regal plant two times a day. Not to mention it's down the street from the gentlemens club. I was at the Velocity plant last week. I was just being a smart ass. As far as I am concerned America IS "Taxation without Representation" seeing how a lot of the working class (tax payers) don't take the time to vote. But lets not get the Catman started here. He has enough nonboating related threads started already.