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Old 03-12-2003, 03:49 PM
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Read the GM article:

http://www.freep.com/money/autonews/irep26_20030226.htm

This is just unbelievable ! $21 million for 260 people !!!
We need to send all the bean counters to Iraq !!
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Old 03-12-2003, 05:09 PM
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Default Keeping up with the competition

You must not know the auto business;

All of the other major OEM's are doing the same thing.

Ford relocated a large portion of their Accounts Payable System to India.

Round the clock engineering shortens lead times/ keep up the with competition to shorten lead times to 18 months since this is what Toyota is doing!

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I disagree !
Why do you think Nissan, and Honda have brought thier studios , engineering and design centers here to the states ? To shorten thier lead time.
More and more foreign automakers are bringing thier programs here. I know, I work for a supplier to several foreign companies.
As usual the foreign companies are always a step ahead of us, i've been thru it in the tooling industry. There used to be a lot of dies and molds designed and built overseas. Then they figured out it costs more to fix the mess that they got back then to just doing it right here.
I've seen the results of Indian designed work ... and had to redesign it. How can someone that rides a Effin bike to work design or engineer a part in a vehicle?!
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You just heard of this ? I guess they call it 'lean design' !!!!! It probably costs less than the H1B employees' (non citizen temporary in USA)............Man, I miss the lore this business used to garner......(big dollar days)....... they are gone ......... Damn........
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I'm sure 'they' can execute an excellent JAWA(scooter) as a springboard to bigger things !!!!!!!!!
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Jolley,
I just read that article today. I've heard and been thru several companies that thought outsourcing was the way to go. Also had to fix many mistakes that our "cheap " labor made.
I believe design time is around $75-$90 and hour and those people were quoting $30 and hour. Sure it looks great on paper but the beancounters don't really see how much it really costs.
Especially when you have to fix something or the program is late. It costs more than money at that point , when they pull the work from you.
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