obiously, maximus, you were not there at the front of the pack to witness bobs 42 outerlimits run in front of Freedom in rough water... or after the lunch stop in the calm water to witness Bob run away from them again, if you do not belive me you can look at the video that was playing during dinner that showed the whole thing. Jim Lee was a very nice guy and had no axe to grind nor did Bob. They both had nice boats and no ego. Some other people should take a lesson about class from some of these guys!!