Jim ... They work real well for what they are. It's not the toughest, fastest or best riding boat in it's class but it does all the things you need it to do. We have a '98 with 250's and have had it on Erie for a couple seasons. Rides nice and steady in the typical slop Erie will throw at you. Make's a pretty good family play boat . It's in Fort Myers now ........ They lack that new style stand up head everyone's got now but other than that you'll love it !!!!