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  1. #11
    Registered Shane's Avatar
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    Lake George, NY it's not called "Queen of American Lakes" for nothin'!
    Originally posted by Too Old
    Brand New= New, never used, as received from the manufacturer.

    Brand New, No Box= Self Explanatory

    Brand New, mounted but never used= again, self explanatory

    If you're selling, an honest, detailed description will prevent a misunderstanding. If I sell something, I tell the buyer if it's not what they expected, send it back for a full refund.

    Simple. [at least to me]

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    So I can install a bilge pump, wire it, screw it down, and everything, never turn it on, clip the wires all the way to 2.5 inches long for install, and still pull it out and sell it as new?

    New is fricking new. Out of box a box ok, but if it does not look like it was JUST LIFTED out of the styrofoam, it is used.

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    Originally posted by Sydwayz
    New is fricking new. Out of box a box ok, but if it does not look like it was JUST LIFTED out of the styrofoam, it is used.
    New demo is boat/car or whatever that comes with full warranty of one that was not a demo.

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    New means "NEW." Never Used! Not almost new and used once.

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    New is ban spanking new still in the box never opened!

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    Charter Member #232 Charter Member Audiofn's Avatar
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    Better then new is TooOlds, Cords, and my boats if we ever get them done

    This is what I experience in my industry. If I want to sell as new it has to be sealed in the box. Seals broken the customer is shown. We take all equipment out of the box and set up systems in our shop to programming, so some times the customer never sees any of this. Anything less then that is ripping your customer off!!!! If a product has ever been installed even if it has not seen power then the customer is informed and they can decide if they want new in the box or the new installed but never run (some times they will take it because there are no others available but they make the decision). It never stops amazing me the way that people stretch the trueth with what they are selling.

    Put your best foot forward!

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    So then when you buy a 'new'car from the dealership and it has 7 miles on it, still not brand new?
    'Brand new' to me, means more like it was JUST made, but could have been used before, and NO ONE has owned it!

  8. #18
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    What you're mouth Jon! My boat has one hour on it, therefore it can't be new.

    In the above case with the dealer, he may be refering to the boat as being "new" if it hasn't been titled. Admitedly, 75 hours is stretch on that. For example, a car maybe sold as new, even though it has 4,900 miles on it-provided that it has never been titled. That's why dealers allow their sales people to drive the cars. It doesn't affect their value!
    Last edited by Cord; 05-14-2003 at 12:20 PM.

  9. #19
    Ok,im not going crazy,my definition of brand new is the same as the majority OSO.
    Brand new-still in box as received by the manufacturer.
    This isnt hard to comprehend.
    Thanks for helping me keep my sanity.

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    So tell us what happened?

    What did you receive that wasn't so "NEW".....and from whom?

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