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Old 07-01-2003, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Organdonor
OMG I just realized I posted to late.....Well hopefuly I will prevent another buyer from makeing the same mistake

Just kidding everyone wants different things from there cars and boats there is no car or boat that is the best for everyone. I had a friend who insisted on a 3 series and well he got one compains about it all the time. However he wanted it so it was the best car for him, it was what maid him happy. Now he just compains and takes it in to the dealer alot, I bought my Audi from the same dealer so I know its not the dealer.....Good luck with the Toyota Cammry oh I mean Lexus ES300 sorry my bad....
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Be careful, you may be working for me someday!! I enjoy my car a lot. Do people ask you why you are driving your wife's car?
 
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organ... i love my a4 as well have had 3 ... a 97, 01, 02 and just ordered my 04 s4 4.2 V8 arives in august... cant wait!!!
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Don't loose focus.
Let's keep this going.

DOWN WITH THE JAPS!

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In the late 1800's the automobile was invented. The technical foundations of motorized transport had been decided: the thing would have four wheels, one in each corner, and would be propelled by an internal combustion engine. That much was certain, but not much else. At this time, there were many heroes of the automobile: Gottfried Daimler and Carl Benz of Germany, Siegfried Marcus of Austria, and the Americans, George Baldwin Seldon and Henry Ford.

But for Audi, it is a young, ambitious engineer, August Horch, who begins our story of exceptional progress. In 1896 Horch discovered the exciting possibilities of the new technology, and signed on with Benz, then the most influential figure of the automobile world. Horch would become one of the most important men in European automobile history - he helped found and name the car companies Horch (1899) and Audi (1909).

1899. Bursting with his own creativity and ideas, Horch left his position as manager of motor construction at Benz to found August Horch and Cie in Cologne, Germany. The next year, he built his first car, equipped with a shock-free, two-cylinder engine. Soon afterwards, he developed the rear-mounted gearbox and the OHV engine with overhead inlet valves. By 1908, the company was turning out over 100 cars a year.

In 1909 Horch left his own company to form another. Unable to trade under his own name, he chose 'Audi' - the Latin translation of Horch ('Listen' in English). Audi Automobilwerke GmbH began business. 'One of my life's dreams has come true' August Horch.
August Horch built the elegant 'Audi Type K' for the discriminating tastes of the elite. Many of these 1919 innovations would become standard later on - for example left-hand steering and the central position of the gear-shift.

In 1919, the war of Independence started in Ireland which would last until 1921. The following year, the Irish civil war began which lasted until 1925 and saw brothers fighting brothers. The end of the civil war saw a free state Government coming into power with Eamonn DeValera as Taoiseach.

In 1926, the Berlin Automobile Exhibition showcased the new Horch 303. Horch immediately became the marquee of top quality in German automobile history. The eight-cylinder engine would become standard for all models after 1927.

At the 1931 Salon de Paris, August Horch became the leading name in the German automobile market. The star of the exhibition was a yellow lacquered Cabriolet with a brown top and green morocco upholstery. But its main feature was less cosmetic - a 12 cylinder V engine with a six-litre cylinder capacity, a marvel of innovative engineering.

Horch, DKW, Wanderer and Audi linked forces in 1932 to create Auto Union AG. The union was symbolised by the four rings

DKW was the most affordable marquee, and had 18 % of the German market in 1938. Wanderer was positioned in the mid range sector, with Audi at the upper mid range.

The premium sector was reserved for Horch, which captured over 50 % of this market segment. Many of the drivers who enjoyed the thrill of a Horch sports convertible were well-known celebrities. Many of the distinguished passengers to ride in a large Horch saloon were politicians or even members of royalty. Thomas Mann, Alfred Neven Du Mont and Werner Kraus all had the pleasure of driving one of the best cars ever built.

Auto Union developed a separate department for racing cars. The sixteen-cylinder engine designed by Ferdinand Porsche created a sensation. Skeptics laughed at its innovations, especially the engine position behind the driver. But 27 years later this became the norm in Formula One cars. In 1934 Hans Stuck drove the Rennwagen to break the world record at its first official race.

One of the co-founders of the Auto Union was Baron von Oertzen. He emigrated to South Africa in 1935, and was the first to market German cars on three continents - Asia, Africa and Australia.

In Germany that year, a streamlined version broke a new record at the Frankfurt autobahn - 406,3 km/h.

In 1939, every fourth car registered in Germany was made by Auto Union.
Just when private cars were finally replacing bicycles in Germany, the outcomes of the Second World War had the most serious impact on Auto Union. The plants were dismantled, and Auto Union was dissolved by the Soviet military.

The directors reacted smartly, and built a new company - Auto Union GmbH, based in Ingolstadt. The new Auto Union concentrated on DKW delivery vans and motorcycles. All these models were marked with a 'W' for 'West' to distinguish them from similar models produced in Saxony for East Germany. Car production only started again in 1950.

In 1950, Stephen O' Flaherty was awarded the VW franchise for Ireland The First Volkswagens assembled outside of Germany were assembled in Dublin from 1950.

In 1956, a plastic-bodied DKW set new long-distance records on the Monza race track in Italy - over 4000 miles in 48 hours and 5 000 miles in 72 hours. From 1954 to 1964 the Auto Union achieved over 100 championship titles, 150 overall wins and 2500 class wins.

In Germany 1958, Daimler Benz bought 88 % of the share capital of Auto Union, and a year later began constructing ultra-modern facilities in Ingolstadt.

The first DKW Junior rolled off the assembly line at Ingolstadt. Customer demand pushed dealers to their limits. DKW production continued until the mid sixties, when the factory was sold to Volkswagen. In December 1964, Auto Union was transferred to the Volkswagen Group. The day of the two-stroke engine was over, and Auto Union engineers had begun working full-time to develop a competitive four-stroke model. Meanwhile, the VW 'Beetle' helped maintain production levels - From 1965 to 1969, between three and five hundred VW's were produced each day at Ingolstadt.

In September 1965, Audi launched its first post-war four-stroke engine. The Audi brand was chosen because Audi had been the only pre-war Auto Union car with front-wheel drive and a four-stroke engine.

The next three years saw launches in Germany of the medium-sized Audi 75, the Audi Super 90, and the Audi 60 in its compact class.

Things were also looking up for another German car manufacturer - NSU AG. They were a sensation at the Frankfurt Motor Show with the premiere in the deluxe car class of the NSU Ro80. Twelve international journalists voted it 'the 1967 car of the year'. However, the massive development costs meant that NSU was ripe to join forces with a powerful associate company.

In 1967 Motor Distributors obtained the Audi franchise for the Republic of Ireland

1968 saw the unveiling of the first Audi 100 - a fundamentally new car which helped renew the value of Auto Union.

In 1969, Auto Union GmbH and NSU Motor Works formed a joint company - Audi NSU Auto Union AG.

Audi NSU were quick to unveil an entirely new car, the Audi 80 which was developed by chief design engineer, Ludwig Kraus. The Audi 80 was voted 'Car of the Year 1969' in four countries.

The Audi 100 was launched in 1972.

Two years later in Germany, the Audi 50 was launched. The Audi 50 was the last in the 'building block' series that included Audi models 80 and 100. With modern overhead camshaft engines, front-wheel drive, weight-saving design and tailgate, it paved the way for the international success of the future Audi and VW models.

The first ever 5 cylinder petrol engine was introduced with the second generation Audi 100, in 1976. In 1977 the millionth Audi 100 came off the production line. In the same year, production of the NSU Ro80 stopped after a production run of 10 years.

The Audi 200 was launched in 1979.
December 1980 marks the landmark introduction of the first high performance car built on four-wheel drive principles - the Audi Quattro Coupe. Quattro is an Audi patented system that spreads the car's power across all wheels, so the driver experiences improved handling, greater stability, lower tyre wear, better traction and therefore better safety in
The quattro astonished the critics. The prototype shot up the Turracher Hohe, Europe's steepest mountain pass, without any traction problems. The tradition of excellence has continued up until today with breath-taking triumphs around the world. The Audi quattro was marketed to the general public in 1980.

The oil embargo in the early 70's had made fuel consumption a concern for all car manufacturers. Reducing fuel consumption was a driving force at Audi because of the important goal to reduce the environmental damage caused by emissions.

Audi gave proof to its pro-environment stance at the Frankfurt Motor Show in 1981. The Audi vision of the car for the Year 2000 was a full-sized deluxe saloon, with lower requirements for fuel and raw materials, as well as greater safety, operating economy and practical value.

A trend-setter because of its genuine innovations, the third generation Audi 100 had similar aims to the Audi vision for the Year 2000. Aerodynamic body design - with a drag coefficient of Cd 0.3, lighter body sections, new or greatly revised engines for fuel economy, and advanced levels of safety all signaled the future for car design and engineering.

After its 1982 launch, the innovations of the Audi 100 were recognized and praised around the world.

1983 marked another impressive step towards environmentally-friendly driving. Audi was the first German manufacturer to receive a general operating permit for cars with catalytic converter technology.

Audi continued to be a world leader in rallies. Drivers like Hannu Mikkola, Michele Mouton and Stig Blomqvist helped Audi become Manufacturers World Rally Champion in 1982 - the first German car company to win this title.

The Audi quattro changed the shape of rallying internationally. In 1984, Audi Sport won the Manufacturers world Rally Championship and the rally drivers championship. Stig Blomqvist was behind the wheel - of a quattro of course
Audi NSU Auto Union AG was renamed Audi AG in 1985.

In 1986, two important innovations find their place in our history: fully-galvanised, rust-resistant bodies and the procon-ten system.

The first innovation allowed Audi to guarantee their cars against corrosion for six years. The second innovation, procon-ten, was an early precursor of airbag passenger technology, and considerably reduced the chances of a driver hitting the steering wheel when in an accident.

These innovations won Audi many international awards, including the German Industry's Innovation Prize for an outstanding ability to develop and realize new ideas.
By 1986, Sarel van der Merwe was a household name in South Africa. Driving an Audi Sport quattro he had clinched the SA Rally three times running. In 1987, it was Geoff Mortimer who drove an Audi to victory.

The Audi Turbo was launched in South Africa in 1988, and to celebrate, Audi imported a special motorsport version - a 2,2 litre turbocharged car that used unleaded fuel. The mission was to set a new Land speed record in South Africa. Sarel van der Merwe had the honors of taking Audi to triumph once again. The new record was 358,9 km/h.

But there was a price to pay - the traffic authorities gave Sarel a ticket for exceeding the speed limit on a public road!

Having cleaned up on the rally tracks, Audi Sport cruised onto the USA racetracks. The Audi quattro won the USA Trans-Am Manufacturers and Drivers Championships.

In 1989, Audi introduced the first direct injection diesel engine with a turbo-charger (TDI) - a triumph for automobile diesel engines.

A modified Audi 100 TDI drove 4814 km and crossed nine countries in Europe on one tank of petrol. Its average speed was 60,2 km/h, and it consumed only 1,7 liters per 100 km.

Another innovation in 1989 was the Audi duo hybrid system. A conventional petrol or diesel engine drove the front wheels and a 9,3 kW electric engine drove the rear. So for driving in the country, the Audi duo had the usual acceleration, range and top speed. But the electric engine eliminated exhaust emissions and noise for driving in the city. The driver could activate either power unit easily, at any time.

1990, the start of the last decade of the millennium, was cause for celebration at Audi: the seven millionth Audi was produced in Ingolstadt, and the Audi quattro was ten years old. But - as always - Audi looked ahead, not behind, and the Board pledged to become ‘the most attractive European marquee’.

The fourth generation Audi 100 was launched in Germany in 1990, and catalytic converters became standard equipment in all Audi cars where lead-free petrol is available.

In 1991, Audi renewed its entire range in just one year. 1991 saw the launches of the Cabriolet, the 100 Avant, the S4 and S4 Avant, and the new Audi 80. Audi also gave the Audi Coupe a facelift and a V6 engine. The flagship of the range - the Audi A8 - was given a 4,2 liter engine.

Audi exhibited two design studies in 1991. The quattro Spyder was unveiled in Frankfurt, and the Avus quattro in Tokyo. Both caused a sensation. The most impressive feature was the aluminum construction, which reduced weight and used resources more efficiently. Another example of how Audi pioneered new technologies to shape the future of the automobile.

The world premiere of the aluminum Audi - the A8 - was held at the Geneva Motor Show in 1994. With this innovation Audi offered the world a truly forward-looking and environment-friendly concept. Critics realized that using aluminum, as a basic construction material was a smart decision: its lightweight ensures reduced fuel consumption at no sacrifice to firmness and rigidity. And aluminum can be recycled almost limitlessly.

In the same year, Audi standardized the names of all their models around the world to A4, A6, and A8.

Motor sport triumphs continued. By 1996, the Super Touring Cup (STW-Cup) belonged entirely to the four rings and the Audi quattro. The Italian Emanuele Pirro won the overall prize in Germany. Frank Biela won the British Touring Car Championship, and Rinaldo Capello won the Italian Touring Car Championship - all driving the Audi A4 quattro. The remarkable quattro also triumphed in touring car competitions in Belgium, Australia and Spain.

1999 is a high point in Audi's remarkable history: all models have been advanced, and are now more exciting than ever. The innovative design of the A6 is winning critical acclaim.

The new improved Audi A8 and A4 give yet more evidence of Audi's leadership in shaping the automotive world of tomorrow. The Audi A3, launched in Ireland has set a new standard for luxury in the compact class. And the Audi TT is the most recent evidence of Audi's commitment to "Vursprung durch Technik".
 
Old 07-01-2003, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE]Originally posted by mr_velocity
That's like us saying "good luck with your VW" to you [/QUOTE]

No its not....They are totally different cars My car is on a frame built for it. Its engine was built for an AUDI, yes the AUDI does pass down its technology to VW, however it is my understanding from a inside source that Porsche does pass technology to AUDI.
 
Old 07-01-2003, 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Hatter
Yeah how's that Passat treatin' yeah?

I went with the G35 and man do I love it. I get alot of looks, alot of compliments and alot of girls checking it out <--My favorite. I don't know about out there but out here there's not very many of them. The ride is great, the motor's torquey and smooth fit and finish are awesome, I'm happy with my decesion.
Well my Audi is no Passat if your referring to the A4 of yesteryear then yes it's frame was passed down to Passat. My Audi is and has been on the top ten list of car and driver magazine? where is your G35
 
Old 07-01-2003, 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Eric1969
Organdonor,

Be careful, you may be working for me someday!! I enjoy my car a lot. Do people ask you why you are driving your wife's car?
Hmm...What do you do that I would want to work for you?

Nope actually nobody has asked me that question about my car.
Actually I am single and most girls that I have dated love my car and want one themselves. Either that or A 3 series but I don't hear any of them saying they would like a Nissan or Toyota. Go figure


People who know Audi’s know better.
 
Old 07-01-2003, 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by dreamer
organ... i love my a4 as well have had 3 ... a 97, 01, 02 and just ordered my 04 s4 4.2 V8 arives in august... cant wait!!!
I am envious....

The S4's 4.2-liter V8 is more compact and lighter than Audi's previous 4.2 and weighs about the same (430 lb) as the biturbo V6 in the current S4. To fit the engine in the narrow engine bay, the chain drive for the camshafts and ancillaries was moved to the output end of the V8, reducing its length by 55mm. Weight was shaved from each piston (by 70 grams) and connecting rod (by 66 grams), improving power to weight ratio from 12.8 lb/hp to 10.5 lb/hp. The refined internals and five-valve-per-pot cylinder head combine to produce an exceptionally elastic powerband, the tach needle ever eager to reach for the 7200-rpm electronic cut-off. Peak output of 339 bhp occurs just 200 rpm shy of redline. Maximum torque is 302 lb-ft at only 3500 rpm and continues unchecked through 4500 rpm. However, a hefty 221 lb-ft is already underfoot by 1100 rpm, Even with such impressive performance-related numbers, the 4.2 meets the EU IV emissions limits.



 
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I can't believe I'm posting again on this thread but one thing did strike me as being pretty funny.....why is the picture of the new blue Audi (S4?) above taken in the "hood" with the sweet privacy fence and the nice boarded up windows? Now that's a marketing statement! WHOAH.

Anyway....I don't care who's car you buy....buy the one that will make YOU the happiest....life is too short!

Good luck with your decision.
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thats the color combo i ordered blue w/ blue/black interior plus all the option... though now i am thinking yellow would have been the way to go?
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