14-H Responds to Mike A.
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14-H Responds to Mike A.
Originally posted by Mike A.
Edward,
SO and Inboard, based on those numbers are the second and third largest categories of APBA, respectively. Offshore, once again, is number one.
Edward,
SO and Inboard, based on those numbers are the second and third largest categories of APBA, respectively. Offshore, once again, is number one.
But the membership numbers, from a pure statistical standpoint are relatively irrelevent to the bigger issues facing APBA and boat racing in general. Moreover, when viewed in the context of the past 10 years or so, the increase of 30 members at this stage of the season is actually a sign of regression or at best stagnation, which is consistent with how most people feel.
You have not taken a single step or instituted a single program which you can honestly claim resulted in this so-called membership increase, even if it were anything other than a statistical non-starter.
Your membership loves their sport. They are screaming for answers. We are producing races. We are producing sponsorships. We are producing television. And now, we are doing what you should be doing: helping to promote stock outboard racing and working with the young, smart, energetic and enthusiastic stock outboard membership who are tired of the rhetoric. Tired of the fighting. Tired of the false claims and tired of the "friends" lack of action.
And what are you doing? All you and the friends are giving them are lawsuits.
You are threatening your members with reprisals if they particiapte in the Yamato World Championships in Key West.
Well, guess what Edward, you have no right to threaten anyone with anything. APBA has never sanctioned anyone for this. UIM to my knowledge has never sanctioned anyone for this, at least not in modern times. Why all of a sudden would either organization threaten sanctions for participating in an event that is good for all?? Edward, please admit to the membership that the "friends" are trying to pull their UIM strings for the first time in history to punish their own members for having fun and trying to improve their racing programs.
Can you please tell us what Charlie and your Dad, both of whom were never elected to anything yet essentially own, control and manage APBA, are doing to fix the problems of the association?
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What have they done about insurance?
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Plenty. But it is none of your business (and I wouldn't even think of revealing it to you) since you have seen fit to stick the remaining APBA Categories with Offshore's portion of the Insurance bill for the 2003 racing season.
What are they doing about television?
What are the doing about sponsorship?
What are they doing about controlling costs and reducing overhead?
What are they doing in terms of new membership programs to increase the general membership numbers?
Since you are notorious for spewing rhetoric and refusing to answer simple questions, let me answer this for you: NOTHING!
Edward, feeding the membership statistical irrelevancies to prove that the "friends" are on the right track, will not work anymore. The friends are trying to destroy the organization all in the name of maintaining their power and control over the checkbook.
There is a fundamental paradigm shift underway and it is real. I think the membership is mad as hell and have decided not to take it anymore. We are going to help change the association for the better. What is the "friends'" plan?
Mike A.
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I disagree with Phantom and dockrocker. I think this type of thread is extremely relevant and certainly warrants a place here on OFFSHORE ONLY! If you guys choose to not read and or be involved from a learning standpoint, please do not make fun by posting what you have. This is a very serious situation to members of OSO. If it is not if interest to you and you cannot contribute constructively please simply avoid the thread altogether.
Thank you.....Carry on.
Thank you.....Carry on.
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As a racing fan I am interested in what is going on that will affect the future of our sport. If some are not interested they should hit the "mute" button on their computers and ignore these threads - - - - really, it's not that hard - - - -just keep scrolling until you find a thread you are interested in.
"And we should listen to Mike A., who is now courting AOF while his company is involved in a dispute with the APBA just a year-and-a-half after Mike A. tried to have AOF's President removed from the APBA Annual Meeting. "
What is "AOF"?
"And we should listen to Mike A., who is now courting AOF while his company is involved in a dispute with the APBA just a year-and-a-half after Mike A. tried to have AOF's President removed from the APBA Annual Meeting. "
What is "AOF"?
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Shane,
I'll respectfully disagree. These APBA v. Offshore LLC threads have been reduced to the level of children arguing over whose daddy can beat up whose. It's all the same "he said, she said" manure every time.
I'm with Phantom - take it to the Racer's board. Quite frankly, I've lost all interest in offshore racing, due in large part to incessant bull**** being slung here and elsewhere by all parties involved, and I'd be willing to bet that I'm not the only one.
Since these threads are about offshore racing, I see no reason why they shouldn't be in the forum dedicated to racing as a sport. That way, the 1% of members that truly care to hear the latest episode of "As The Prop Turns" will know exactly where to find it. The rest of us can go back to dicussing general boating topics like manatee restrictions, dishonest vendors, poker runs, and the like.
I feel I'm a pretty reasonable, live and let live kind of guy (as, I suspect, Phantom is as well), but these threads are really getting old.
As always, YMMV....
I'll respectfully disagree. These APBA v. Offshore LLC threads have been reduced to the level of children arguing over whose daddy can beat up whose. It's all the same "he said, she said" manure every time.
I'm with Phantom - take it to the Racer's board. Quite frankly, I've lost all interest in offshore racing, due in large part to incessant bull**** being slung here and elsewhere by all parties involved, and I'd be willing to bet that I'm not the only one.
Since these threads are about offshore racing, I see no reason why they shouldn't be in the forum dedicated to racing as a sport. That way, the 1% of members that truly care to hear the latest episode of "As The Prop Turns" will know exactly where to find it. The rest of us can go back to dicussing general boating topics like manatee restrictions, dishonest vendors, poker runs, and the like.
I feel I'm a pretty reasonable, live and let live kind of guy (as, I suspect, Phantom is as well), but these threads are really getting old.
As always, YMMV....