First off, Cuda that quote was perfect. People from other countries can't understand what we are all about. In our countries worst moment, since pearl harbor, we all pulled together and united. Some people would kill to live here because of our views, others want to kill us for them.It is that quote that gives cat and winston the right to speak their views. It is also that quote that gives cat and winston the right to sound like complete ignorant brain washed robot's. It is also that quote that gives me the right to say to cat and winston WHAT THE F$^^&^%%$$&&&&[email protected] Your views on politics and society are so twisted it amazes me that you can make it through an average day. If i have a certain opinion about something and somebody sheds a different view on it, i will listen. I will listen, and possibly change my opinion if need be. If all of us were looking at a red car, you two would say it was white. I thought i was stubborn, you two change the definition. Normally i would never do this, but i already proved winston wrong once today. However, he still rant's and raves and sounds ignorant, so i have to call him on it . Guys, check out this thread and we can put this to rest.