Which Apache do You Like Better?
01-10-2004, 01:33 PM
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Re: Re: 41
Originally posted by d-hlaw
Although the argument can be made that an equally powered twin step top gun will run just as well in the rough and be faster. I recently ran against the Apache "Razz" in 4-5 footers with my Gun and we were pretty close, although he did pull me just a bit after about 4 miles...... but he has Zul 1000's through 3A's and I have HP500EFI's. His comment to me after wasthat he had never heard of a HP500 powered gun doing in the 90's!! (we were doing 82!) Anyways, I would buy an Apache for history and the quality, but if performance is the goal there are alot of other boats that eat big water with less power.
Although the argument can be made that an equally powered twin step top gun will run just as well in the rough and be faster. I recently ran against the Apache "Razz" in 4-5 footers with my Gun and we were pretty close, although he did pull me just a bit after about 4 miles...... but he has Zul 1000's through 3A's and I have HP500EFI's. His comment to me after wasthat he had never heard of a HP500 powered gun doing in the 90's!! (we were doing 82!) Anyways, I would buy an Apache for history and the quality, but if performance is the goal there are alot of other boats that eat big water with less power.
01-10-2004, 01:50 PM
#83
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Re: Re: 41
Originally posted by d-hlaw
Although the argument can be made that an equally powered twin step top gun will run just as well in the rough and be faster. I recently ran against the Apache "Razz" in 4-5 footers with my Gun and we were pretty close, although he did pull me just a bit after about 4 miles...... but he has Zul 1000's through 3A's and I have HP500EFI's. His comment to me after wasthat he had never heard of a HP500 powered gun doing in the 90's!! (we were doing 82!) Anyways, I would buy an Apache for history and the quality, but if performance is the goal there are alot of other boats that eat big water with less power.
Although the argument can be made that an equally powered twin step top gun will run just as well in the rough and be faster. I recently ran against the Apache "Razz" in 4-5 footers with my Gun and we were pretty close, although he did pull me just a bit after about 4 miles...... but he has Zul 1000's through 3A's and I have HP500EFI's. His comment to me after wasthat he had never heard of a HP500 powered gun doing in the 90's!! (we were doing 82!) Anyways, I would buy an Apache for history and the quality, but if performance is the goal there are alot of other boats that eat big water with less power.
I have to believe that something is wrong with the Apache you just mentioned because 82 mph with 1000 hp Zuls just does not add up. It sounds like he is missing about 200 hp a side.
Also, when wave heights reach 6' plus and the powertrain on a 41 Apache is healthy and set up right, take a good look at Offshore Powerboating at its finest.
It is a sweet sight indeed!
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01-10-2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by SS930
Although most Apache's aren't selling, can you really say that any brand high dollar used boat is selling? Even Cig's aren't moving that well... better, but not well. Fact is it's all simple economics... people are asking too much for these older Apache's and the market doesn't warrant the big $$$. There is demand for them, but until the prices come down buyers will not consume.
Although most Apache's aren't selling, can you really say that any brand high dollar used boat is selling? Even Cig's aren't moving that well... better, but not well. Fact is it's all simple economics... people are asking too much for these older Apache's and the market doesn't warrant the big $$$. There is demand for them, but until the prices come down buyers will not consume.
thats like
saying i want a 360 ferrari but because i only have 100k to spend , that they must be priced too high for what they are....no its callled "YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY"
01-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by SLINGSHOT
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO TASTE IN THE END
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO TASTE IN THE END
01-10-2004, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by SLINGSHOT
thats like
saying i want a 360 ferrari but because i only have 100k to spend , that they must be priced too high for what they are....no its callled "YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY"
thats like
saying i want a 360 ferrari but because i only have 100k to spend , that they must be priced too high for what they are....no its callled "YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY"
These boats aren't moving because people are not willing to pay the inflated prices that sellers are asking. PERIOD. It's not that there are no buyers with money... there are and they are choosing to not comsume these boats. The bottom line is if the prices were lower the boats would move.
01-10-2004, 06:04 PM
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1. They are for sale and rare boats, therefore it's value is the agreement between the owner and the buyer. If it is too high for you when looking move on. They are rare and hold their value.
2. Be thankful that the resale is lower than the new price.
3. I have just put in new motors new transmissions, new SSM VI drives, etc. What do you think it is worth ??
The value is mine to set and the buyers todecide, just my .02.
2. Be thankful that the resale is lower than the new price.
3. I have just put in new motors new transmissions, new SSM VI drives, etc. What do you think it is worth ??
The value is mine to set and the buyers todecide, just my .02.
