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Old 02-09-2004, 01:45 PM
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Just a note. Lucas Oil also ran APBA Super V with that setup this past season. Here they are in Marathon between us and the other Gladiator, H&H Speed & Marine.
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What about the ill fated Mercury Black Hawk drive? I like em, ***** to dock but lots of free speed over a bravo. And rooster tail....Ohhhh Yaaaa. Click link in signature to see.
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I raced the 46 Skater Jaws for years with BPM drives with the rudder on torque tube.The boat was very fast but diden't turn good.AS you can see in Ron P.post we changed to SAGE#8 drives. The boat is even faster then before and turns like it has #6 drives but will take the 1500hp.You will have to run a internal drop box on engine. SCS has a quick change drop box that you can change gears in minutes.
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I'm impressed with the tandem set up on the Lucas oil boat... neat stuff... radical departure...
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I've always considered Speedmaster drives "surface drives" or any other drive where the propeller pierces the surface... Do you guys draw the line on whether it has a gimbal housing?
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Originally posted by DWES
AS you can see in Ron P.post we changed to SAGE#8 drives. The boat is even faster then before and turns like it has #6 drives but will take the 1500hp.You will have to run a internal drop box on engine. SCS has a quick change drop box that you can change gears in minutes.
Cool, but how useful is it to have a drive that moves in 6 directions (if I understood RonP correctly)? Sounds like alot of additional weight.

Surface drive gurus: Do you suffer a weight penalty from having to run the tranny or dropbox compared to the Bravos. Are they about the same weight as SSM's?
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Originally posted by KaamaScarab30
Cool, but how useful is it to have a drive that moves in 6 directions (if I understood RonP correctly)? Sounds like alot of additional weight.


Think of an outboard with a jack plate-up/down, tilt up/tilt down, right/left. Being able to change the height of the drive is huge. You can lower it for holeshot and then raise it at speed. You have an infinitely adjustable "X"dimension. The Sage is a VERY cool setup, too bad there aren't more out there.
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Here's a few pics of a Hickman seasled from the 1920's . . . I downloaded this pics off a site a long time ago . . . can't remember where I found it.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:52 PM
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Funny.... I never saw this thread back in 2004.... That was probably when I was on my yearly diving vacation in the Carribbean.....

Actually the first true powered surface drive was the paddle wheel, but what do I know?

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