Apache 33 center console
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Apache 33 center console
Tried this in Apache forum with no response.
Is anyone familiar with the 33 center console inboard/outboard model? how many made? who made them? performance?
Is anyone familiar with the 33 center console inboard/outboard model? how many made? who made them? performance?
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I can't wait to get back to TAVERNIER ! Anyway, the 33 x 9' 6" wide beam was the CC actually built by Apache ( Bobby S.). The 33' x 8' was designed and built by Bobby S.( Apache) as an Offshore boat and wasn't configured as a CC until Concept bought the molds. I've personally only seen one of the " wide bodies " and don't know anything about their performance.
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Thanks for the info, I guess the CC is similar in dimensions to my 33 Donzi CC, only Apache made an inboard/outboard model, my Donzi has a pair of 250 EFIs. Is your CC a 33 or 36? I saw it at Concepts one day; it is awesome. Let me know when you will be in Tavernier; I have a place there and try to get there on the weekends. Love to see your boat on the water...how fast is it with those triplets? Is it still at Tavernier Creek marina?
Frank
Thanks for the info, I guess the CC is similar in dimensions to my 33 Donzi CC, only Apache made an inboard/outboard model, my Donzi has a pair of 250 EFIs. Is your CC a 33 or 36? I saw it at Concepts one day; it is awesome. Let me know when you will be in Tavernier; I have a place there and try to get there on the weekends. Love to see your boat on the water...how fast is it with those triplets? Is it still at Tavernier Creek marina?
Frank
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Bobby built the wide beam model using a hull mold from the cut-down 36 Cig and a new deck/interior mold.
I looked at a couple, both outboards though, and while they had been nice boats both had been seriuously neglected. One was much more project than I had in mind, the other the owner wanted about 3 times what I thought it worth considering the amount or R&R required.
-Greg
I looked at a couple, both outboards though, and while they had been nice boats both had been seriuously neglected. One was much more project than I had in mind, the other the owner wanted about 3 times what I thought it worth considering the amount or R&R required.
-Greg
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Apache 33' Center-Console...
We built the 9' 6" beam center-console in 1985-88 in both a sterndrive & outboard(B-Bracket) version. Most of the sterndrive versions went out with 370 TRS packages and did 64 m.p.h. with Hydromotive 4-blades of the day. These props were approximately 3-4 m.p.h. faster than the Mercury Mirage's, at that time. I remember this well, because it was such a great speed improvement. Tony Roma, among others, were owners of this model. I remember Tony's wife wanted lessons on how to operate her new boat, so...Steve Wilson showed her the ropes. I remember Steve coming back & saying that she wanted a little bit more than... just how to operate her new boat! One 33' Center-console we built, with a huge oversize console & non-wind-resistant windscreen, Speedmaster # 3's, & big power...ran well into the 90 m.p.h. range. Most of the outboard models were rigged with twin Johnson or Evinrude 300 h.p. V-8's...Some were V-8's from "Second-Effort" in Lake Hamilton, Fl., which was OMC's Hi-Performance Outlet at the time. Both boat versions ran well. The narrower 8' beam 33' was built as a center-console sterndrive only. There was a sport-deck sterndrive deck as well. We also built ALOT of 22' Apache Scouts, in many, many, versions/powers. Eric Froberg was one of our riggers at the time. Had a great time working with everyone back then. Met a lot of famous people. Hope this helps. Ed
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33' Apache Open CC
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.
I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.
The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds
If I can help let me know
Bobby Saccenti
I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.
The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds
If I can help let me know
Bobby Saccenti
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Great Designs Never Go Out Of Style
Bobby, isn't it ironic ( to the naysayers) that so much of your old tooling is still producing some of the best performing, baddest in their class boats Luckily for you both molds are in the hands of people who care about doing it right so the product doesn't shame the design. All right I've got the 41' and a 33' anything else out there I should know about ? It's about time to replace my flats boat
Jim Deitz
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Hello:
A buddy of mine is restoring 9'6" IO model. It was called the FOX A lot of glass work(soft floor). Will have 500 hp big blocks and bravoones. Graphics just done, should be ready in about six weeks, so no performance numbers. Any info on this boat would be greatly apprecciated
TOM
A buddy of mine is restoring 9'6" IO model. It was called the FOX A lot of glass work(soft floor). Will have 500 hp big blocks and bravoones. Graphics just done, should be ready in about six weeks, so no performance numbers. Any info on this boat would be greatly apprecciated
TOM
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hey tommy, i was wondering how that boat was doing...i saw it last year when he had it stripped...what an awesome looking boat...great classic lines...i may pop in this weekend...is it still at the shop? r u working on saturday?
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Re: 33' Apache Open CC
Originally posted by Bob Saccenti
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.
I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.
The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds
If I can help let me know
Bobby Saccenti
I produced all the 33' Apache CC. If you are looking at one let me know which one, maybe I can help you with some background.
I produced two different models,
The first was the 33'x 8', I designed both the hull and two decks, Sport and CC. Lewis at Concept is now manufacturing the CC with his own deck design.
The second was the 33' x 9.5; this hull mold was Don's Squadron Twelve, a cut down old style 36' Cigarette race boat. I designed just the decks on this model, Sport and CC. Joe at Marlin Yachts in Miami is now building this model with his own deck design.
Both companies are putting out great products with each of these molds
If I can help let me know
Bobby Saccenti
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