A buddy and I filled a 55 gallon drum with water. Then we climbed a ladder and fired a black talon down into it. What we retrieved made me shiver. It's like a razor sharp chain saw with eight razor points turning and tumbling. I read where some surgeons would not work on "black talon" victims due to the monumental risk of the points cutting their rubber gloves. That is what started the "anti black talon" movement.
From 30 ft. I can drill a gallon paint can ten out of ten, from the hip. (and no laser site required, thank you)