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Formula Outlaw 07-01-2004 07:27 PM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
The best blower?

a woman in Maine by the name of Terri Buzzelli

hotlavey 07-01-2004 07:37 PM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
Her phone number please.

Hydrocruiser 07-01-2004 09:43 PM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 

Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
The best blower?

a woman in Maine by the name of Terri Buzzelli


Note to self:

Boost is your friend.

ernie davis 07-02-2004 07:59 AM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 

Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw
The best blower?

a woman in Maine by the name of Terri Buzzelli


Bwhhhhaaaaahahhhaaa.....that's good.....

But no one has answered the "cost" question.
Given all the "other" stuff that goes along to do a blower set up right......
What's it cost to turn your BBC Mag-Mouse into a bonified firing breathing hangranade waiting to happen :D

signed,
Uncle Ernie

Bilgerat 07-02-2004 07:59 AM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
Again everyone has opinions, and I agree with speaking with the manufacturers to tap into their knowledge base, I do have a bit of experience with prochargers, and if you can contact them talk to Cary Pangrac or Jim summers, and they are willing to spend some time on the phone you will likely find there are many advantages to them, I built some 502's stock bottom end with better pistons, edelbrock heads, and m-4's blowing through dual quads and they make all kinds of power, don't add barely any height to your engine package, come standard with air- water intercooling and make more horsepower on pump fuel (91) than most other styles of blower, also due to the belt wrap on the pulley it does not have to be so god awful tight which is putting excessive loads on the crank snoout and all the bearings in the engine. I also beleive an earlier post may have been inacurate because I think a centrifugal will not cost you the extra 50 horsepower over a whipple. Nearly half the time it is spinning it doesn't make any boost but is there when you need it only, when you lay into the throttles. speaking of car stuff the mustang racers today are hauling --- and the only stuff that is really fast are turbo cars and procharged cars.

jryan26 07-02-2004 09:54 AM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
SR-24
Have you thought about selling your current power and building some NA 572s? What kind of HP are you looking for? Are you going to upgrade your drives?

John NY 07-02-2004 10:01 AM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 

Originally Posted by Bilgerat
I also beleive an earlier post may have been inacurate because I think a centrifugal will not cost you the extra 50 horsepower over a whipple. Nearly half the time it is spinning it doesn't make any boost but is there when you need it only, when you lay into the throttles. speaking of car stuff the mustang racers today are hauling --- and the only stuff that is really fast are turbo cars and procharged cars.

Look at the mess below - it used to be on ATI/Procharger's web site. If you scroll down you will see a heading: blower HP consumption: 55, 58 and 74 HP. I've been sidelined for the past few years, but I used to do open road racing (silver state classic, pony express) with a 97 Mustang Cobra in the Unlimited division. These were 80-120 mile races on closed section of public highways. Over the years we worked that car up to 205 MPH. I had many sponsors at the time and got lots of coverage. If you look on www.vortechsuperchargers.com web site under "Profiles" and "World's Fastest Cobra" that'd be me. Here's an old article on some of what was in the car http://www.50mustangandsuperfords.co...ehicles/18758/ it's mostly accurate. Vortech used to have video up of the car at speed. Can shoot it to you if you're curious.


Units Baseline VortechS-Trim ProChargerP600B ProChargerP600B
Intercooled Y/N N N Y Y
Compressor Inlet Pressure (test data) psia n/a 14.3 14.5 14.2
Compressor Discharge Pressure (test data) psig n/a 9 11.2 14.5
Engine Intake Manifold Pressure (test data) psig n/a 8.2 8.2 11.5
Pressure Drop Through Intercooler (test data) psia n/a n/a 3 3
Compressor Inlet Temperature (test data) F 81 82.7 82.3 82.3
Intercooler Effectiveness (test data) % n/a n/a 76 72
Intercooler Discharge Temperature (test data) F n/a n/a 120 139.7
Engine Intake Manifold Inlet Temperature F 81 199.2 120 139.7
Total Temperature Increase (test data) F n/a 116.5 37.7 57.4
Ambient Air Density (calculated) lb/cu-ft 0.0737 0.0734 0.0735 0.0735
Change In Charge Air Density (test data) % n/a 29.5 47.1 63.2
Engine Displacement (given) cu-in 302 302 302 302
Engine RPM (test data) rev/min 5500 6000 6000 6000
Total Ignition Timing (test data) degrees 30 22 30 30
Fuel Octane Rating (given) — 91 91 91 91
Gross Horsepower (calculated) HP 281 439 502 566
Volumetric Air Flow (test data) SCFM 480 811 837 925
Blower Horsepower Consumption (test data) HP n/a 55 58 74
Net Horsepower (test data) HP 281 384 444 492
Net Horsepower Increase (calculated) % n/a 36.7 58 75.1

thedonz 07-02-2004 11:43 AM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
any thoughts or experienes with B & M 250 blowers on a 502?

SR-24 07-02-2004 01:04 PM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 
A buddy of mine has two on 454's and they seem to do just fine. They're in an '88 model 31' Cig, so the speeds aren't great, but I think he runs about 75 or so. He also just had one rebuilt by the blower shop and he said you can really tell the difference in the engine with the rebuilt one.

Comanche3Six 07-02-2004 01:14 PM

Re: Who makes the best blower/supercharger?
 

Originally Posted by thedonz
any thoughts or experienes with B & M 250 blowers on a 502?

I run one on a 522 at 5 lbs boost. It broke 2 transmissions and I had to buy a Huber trans for it. It adds some grunt.


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