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Old 11-23-2004, 02:05 PM
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>Reality of tax cuts....While we're watching the political commercials and listening to the politicians spin their web around unsuspecting and misinformed people...here's a "Reality" lesson in economics ??

>Top 1% earn 21% of all income; pay 37-1/2% of all taxes
>Top 5% earn 35% of all income; pay 56-1/2% of all taxes
>Top 10% earn 46% of all income; pay 67% of all taxes
>Top 25% pay 84% of all taxes
>Top 50% pay 96-1/2% of all taxes
>Bottom 50% pay 3-1/2% of all taxes
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>Just in case we are not completely clear on this issue, here is an old story that we hope will help explain our US Tax System.......

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>Tax Cuts 
>A Simple Lesson In Economics This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.
>Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand.
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>Suppose that every day, ten people go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100.
>If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
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>The first four people (the poorest) would pay nothing.
>The fifth would pay $1.
>The sixth would pay $3.
>The seventh $7.
>The eighth $12.
>The ninth $18.
>The tenth person (the richest) would pay $59.
>So, that's what they decided to do. The ten people ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

>Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."
>So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, the first four people were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

>The six people realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth person and the sixth person would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

>So, the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each person's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

>And so:
>The fifth person, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings.
>The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
>The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
>The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
>The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
>The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
>Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the people began to compare their savings.

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>"I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth person. He pointed to the tenth person "but he got $10!"
>"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth person. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got!"

>"That's true!!" shouted the seventh person. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

>"Wait a minute," yelled the first four people in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

>The nine people surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
>The next night the tenth person didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

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>And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.

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>There are lots of good restaurants in Europe, Asia and the Caribbean etc..
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:47 PM
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YEAH...what he said!
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Jonas is right on. The only thing he didn't mention was the EITC (earned income tax CREDIT). This little talked about jewel gives single parents tax refunds up to four to five thousand dollars even if they didn't pay a Penny in Federal income taxes. Nice system. I forgot about the AMT (Alternitive Minimum Tax) which is being phased in. This gem makes middle and high income workers/couples calculate their taxes TWO ways and pay the higher tax irrespective of your deductions. This last item is supposedly being dealt with Bush's tax policy changes. which by the way are supposed to be revenue neutral. But don't celebrate yet, Hillary has gone on record with wealthy Democrat fund raisers that if President, she would raise taxes on the wealthy. "You gotta give it back-for the greater good". Neat
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Jonas,
Thanks for the reminder of how much we, (the wife and I) pay in taxes!! I vote for a flat tax, across the board!
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Default Re: tax cuts explained,, read it all,,

after going to key west!! i need to keep more $$!!! i want some bigger badder chit . and have it hauled to florida for the next yrs fl pwer boat poker run!!
maybe a 42 with 1100's and 6's hmm
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Amen Jonas.
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Originally Posted by Jonas
after going to key west!! i need to keep more $$!!! i want some bigger badder chit . and have it hauled to florida for the next yrs fl pwer boat poker run!!
maybe a 42 with 1100's and 6's hmm

i'm glad i am not the only one coming back with that feeling...
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Sounds like the old 80/20 rule still works.
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Originally Posted by Payton
Sounds like the old 80/20 rule still works.

yeah but more like 96/ 4
why should the ones that sacrifice!! (while they are home with thier remote in hand on weekends and eves) while we work hard, then we have to pay for them and the ones that dont want to, or come up with bs excuses bogus claims,..
whimps whinners drive me nuts,, especially when they say u are sooo lucky.. BS i am lucky i just freakin work longer and harder and i guess the more i do, the luckier i get,,
cause i want the life style i believe its a choices, sacrifices and some risk. nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Someone needs to send this to Catmando!!!!
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