Ben Kramer (whats in a name?)
 

Was he that bad of a guy?? Didi anybody here know Ben, Sal magluta or willie falcon? What the deal?

Re: Ben Kramer (whats in a name?)
 

crack kills

Re: Ben Kramer (whats in a name?)
 

You've only touched the tip of the iceberg.

You missed that era........thats only three of many.

L.S.

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Troutly, get in here with that popcorn!

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LS, did you know these guys??

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I did an a few more, if you were a racer back then, they were part of the program.
after 8 years of racing you meet alot of interesting people an they were not all from
Florida.

Re: Ben Kramer (whats in a name?)
 

In 1979 I went to work for Howard Quam. The boat was #45 "Flapjack" and I was to replace Keith Hazell as his throttleman. I remember Sal and Willie showing up to the after-race dinners with the most beautiful Hispanic women I'd ever seen. I didn't get to know them personally, but they were always nice to me if I ever was around. Once before a race I remember Sal telling me: "Be safe out there.". I thought that was cool because he really didn't KNOW me, just recognized I was a racer.

I didn't meet Ben until the late 1980s when I worked for Everglades Marina. Everglades had an office for a short time at Ft. Apache Marina. Our paths didn't cross again until after he was "away" and he called the Apache display at the New York boat show and I happened to answer the phone. His father liked me and obviously had told Ben because he knew who I was and was very nice to me over the phone. It was like talking to a celebrity because I had heard so much about him.

Sorry for the trip down memory lane!

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This should be interesting.

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What site would that be? Lockedupdrugdealers.com ? :D
I know of a few people that consider him a friend. I think had a lot of people that liked hanging around his money and influence. He probably was a nice guy untill you crossed him up in his "bussines".
I think he is sitting exactly where he belongs.

Re: Ben Kramer (whats in a name?)
 

[QUOTE=d-hlaw]Was he that bad of a guy??QUOTE]
He hired a shooter to kill Don Aronow, I'd say so.