DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
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Re: DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
Originally Posted by vette4jja
Grow up. .
Jason
Jason
There's an old cliche in retail, the 3 rules:
Rule 1. Location
Rule 2. Location
Rule 3. Location
Well there's also one in marketing just a little less well known (especially in the marine industry):
Rule 1. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 2. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 3. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Perhaps if you'd focus on how great your innovative bent piece of tube shower is and talk about all it's great unique features and benefits rather than talking negatively about and badgering your competitors and their products we wouldn't have the thread on hotboat or a large part of this one.
There's usually only one reason a business focuses on belittling it's competitors products. I'm sure everyone knows the answer to that one.
You'll notice through all of this I've never badmouthed your product, nor Simreks, nor Dana's, nor anyone elses either. I did call you on knocking off Simreks design because I consider it obvious, but never said your product didn't do this or didn't do that. Actually I think your product, Simreks, and our new dual pickup model all flow within fractions of the same. Same size tubing, no big mystery there. Your self proclaimed 25% better than Simrek Halo on your site, well maybe maybe not, the consumer will have to decide that one. Just the fact you mention it by name repeatedly on your site says a lot in my opinion. A given size inlet hole will only flow a given amount no matter how many dozen outlet holes you drill. I think all the above products will do a great job of cooling. Our design is much different than either yours or Simreks and the consumer is smart enough to make that decision too if he or she thinks that design aspect is important to them.
Lastly, the one thing above I did comment on with regard to Simrek had nothing to do with Simreks product (which I think works very well). It has to do with something far more serious and that's ethics that CP's post exposed. A ghost site imulating an independent drive shower expert of some kind being actually owned by a drive shower maker in a very deceptive manner and even buying Google adwords to promote itself... . Some call it innovative advertising I guess. I have a different view. I also think consumers are plenty smart enough to know what that scenario means. It's the one thing you and I do agree on.
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Re: DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
Originally Posted by rexone
A couple more points and I'll stop. And perhaps you should heed your own advice on the growing up part, that being,
There's an old cliche in retail, the 3 rules:
Rule 1. Location
Rule 2. Location
Rule 3. Location
Well there's also one in marketing just a little less well known (especially in the marine industry):
Rule 1. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 2. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 3. NEVER bash a competitor's product
"You'll notice through all of this I've never badmouthed your product, nor Simreks, nor Dana's, nor anyone elses either"
"Lastly, the one thing above I did comment on with regard to Simrek had nothing to do with Simreks product ".
There's an old cliche in retail, the 3 rules:
Rule 1. Location
Rule 2. Location
Rule 3. Location
Well there's also one in marketing just a little less well known (especially in the marine industry):
Rule 1. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 2. NEVER bash a competitor's product
Rule 3. NEVER bash a competitor's product
"You'll notice through all of this I've never badmouthed your product, nor Simreks, nor Dana's, nor anyone elses either"
"Lastly, the one thing above I did comment on with regard to Simrek had nothing to do with Simreks product ".
Mike,
Wow! Attack a company but not their products, that’s how you do things. And you wonder why it desperate times for Rex Marine. Fact is your very first post on this thread you unjustly and off the topic attacked Just Wicked Marine and continued your attack post after post. Good luck with that.
I want to apologies to this forum, to the thread starter, to our customers and to all of Just Wicked Marine’s dealers that we do business with on OSO.
Jason
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Re: DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
Originally Posted by vette4jja
Mike,
Wow! Attack a company but not their products, that’s how you do things. And you wonder why it desperate times for Rex Marine. Fact is your very first post on this thread you unjustly and off the topic attacked Just Wicked Marine and continued your attack post after post. Good luck with that.
I want to apologies to this forum, to the thread starter, to our customers and to all of Just Wicked Marine’s dealers that we do business with on OSO.
Jason
Wow! Attack a company but not their products, that’s how you do things. And you wonder why it desperate times for Rex Marine. Fact is your very first post on this thread you unjustly and off the topic attacked Just Wicked Marine and continued your attack post after post. Good luck with that.
I want to apologies to this forum, to the thread starter, to our customers and to all of Just Wicked Marine’s dealers that we do business with on OSO.
Jason
I think you're also a little confused about Rex Marine as well but such is life. Good luck Jason.
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Just as soon as we figure out how to do it we'll be bringing you our newest drive shower.
We've been busy busy trying to solve this problem for you.
We've been busy busy trying to solve this problem for you.
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Re: DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
Originally Posted by TRICK
Man, what an ugly thread on a public forum.
There's a lot of choices in drive showers these days. I see some very nice, innovative new showers from Rex and Dana. Kudos to both companies. It's nice to see guys coming out with original designs and improving the chances of survival for those often problematic Bravo drives.
The rest of the thread may be more information than I need.
There's a lot of choices in drive showers these days. I see some very nice, innovative new showers from Rex and Dana. Kudos to both companies. It's nice to see guys coming out with original designs and improving the chances of survival for those often problematic Bravo drives.
The rest of the thread may be more information than I need.
Also sometimes the truth isn't necessarily pretty and often parties involved aren't very receptive. I've never been a very good sugarcoater. But there's things that go on in this industry that people just need to be aware of and some of the above is a good example.
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Re: DANA Ultra H2O Drive Shower DS-001
Originally Posted by CPPerformance
Just as soon as we figure out how to do it we'll be bringing you our newest drive shower.
We've been busy busy trying to solve this problem for you.
We've been busy busy trying to solve this problem for you.
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................after reading thru this thread, I have to wonder are we using drive showers for the "wrong" reason(s)? Everybody is talking reduction in oil temp, when they manufacture lubricating oils the high end test temp is 210* F, yes very close to the boiling point of water. I really don't know how hot my Bravo gets running WFO (low 70's) but I have never had a problem with cooking the gear oil (I do run a synthetic 75w140 GL-5). Yes, it is more than warm to the touch but no where near the upper end test temp of 210*F. Do we run a drive shower because marketing says we need to or do we like the fact that the cooler outdrive does not "chalk" up anymore. Oil must be more than warm to the touch for some of the additives to work properly. Are we over cooling the lubricant for a better looking outdrive? Just rambling................Ken
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