Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ? >

Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

Notices

Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

Old 05-28-2006, 07:50 AM
  #1  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Ratickle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Question Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

I had a post in the General about new Michigan proposed law on boat noise. One of the main issues, besides combining the worst of J34 and J2005 was the elimination of cutouts or bypasses. This is currently the law in Ohio and I want to know if they really do enforce this in Ohio? All three of our boats have bypass exhaust. One with Corsa, one with Lightning, and one with Gil. In Ohio do they write tickets if you pass the test with the mufflers being used but fail with the mufflers bypassed?
Ratickle is offline  
Old 05-28-2006, 10:38 PM
  #2  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
KAAMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Western Michigan
Posts: 4,461
Received 72 Likes on 44 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

Ratickle, Thanks for posting the info on that other thread in the Gen discussion section. I think we all need to band together and let our elected officials at least know how the boating community feels on this new proposed watercraft noise law and keep them from passing the bill. They are only going to push for more, and more, and this is really beginning to become rediculas-----pretty soon we're ALL going to be outlaws!
KAAMA is offline  
Old 05-29-2006, 06:19 AM
  #3  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Ratickle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

I'm starting to think no one in Ohio ever got a ticket so bypasses don't matter. I have to modify the exhaust on the Black Thunder anyway so I am trying to find out what is the best bet so far. You can always beat a ticket if the technology doesn't exist to meet the standard but if they modify the law to make all bypass exhaust illegal, which looks likely, I'm currently thinking about GGB on the transom and some kind of insert inside where the Corsa CapCalls are currently. Running Eickert's almost dry now. Way loud open
Ratickle is offline  
Old 05-30-2006, 11:50 AM
  #4  
Registered
 
RedDog382's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio/Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,029
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

I have run 645 h.p. Sterlings with CMI's and almost dry pipes (water enters at the tip outside the transom). Pretty loud so I was concerned about this also. I have asked Ohio DNR officers about this and they said they will test only if they have recieved complaints about your boat specifically. They leave the meter on the desk in the office and generally do not have it with them on routine patrols.

They generally are a pretty laid back group of guys unless you are doing something stupid or mouth off to them, then they are all business.

I am putting GGB Extreme mufflers on mine just to avoid the hassle.
RedDog382 is offline  
Old 05-30-2006, 12:06 PM
  #5  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fremont, Ohio
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

I talked to a ODNR officer 2 weeks ago. The law currently states that all boats must have a muffling device. I asked "even if it didn't come that way from the factory?" He said yes. However, he said unless there was a complaint, they don't bother anybody about it. I think the test was less than 80db 10' from the transom at idle.
Scott
screebar is offline  
Old 05-30-2006, 12:09 PM
  #6  
Registered
 
The Menace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bonita Springs, Florida
Posts: 3,029
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

Originally Posted by RedDog382
I have asked Ohio DNR officers about this and they said they will test only if they have received complaints about your boat specifically.
They generally are a pretty laid back group of guys unless you are doing something stupid or mouth off to them, then they are all business.
I have the latest and greatest built in fixed muffler system from Stellings. Looks great and sounds better. They have taken all the bite and bark out of it but still makes a nice smooth loud purrrrr.

The people who are going be hassled are the ones running the shorelines, buzzing other boats and revving it up in Marinas. Use common sense when running your boat. They call these things Offshore's for a reason. To be used offshore. Sometimes pulling bow first into a dock may not seem like the coolest thing. But it is courteous to those at water front restaurants. Remember, to most people you are an unwanted element.

In high traffic marinas and channels I idle on one engine as much as practical when in Ohio.

I have talked to the DNR, local officers and the USCG during water and ramp checks. As long as they do not get a call they will not write a ticket or hassle you. Most of them like the sound as much as we do. They spend more time looking at the engines than # of life jackets, horns, oil placards etc.
The Menace is offline  
Old 05-30-2006, 09:08 PM
  #7  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Ratickle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

Thanks everyone. Sounds like your officers are more like what we want than what we have. Any feedback from California? They have a similar law to what is being proposed here with the combined J34 and J2005. One for idle and one for the 25 meter pass.
Ratickle is offline  
Old 05-30-2006, 10:24 PM
  #8  
Registered
 
Revd Up's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Rockford, IL
Posts: 1,092
Received 21 Likes on 11 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

If you do decide to go with mufflers , I just put on the CMI Sound Eliminator mufflers and I love them. Quiet at low speed then louder at WOT. Got them at Trick Marine.
Revd Up is offline  
Old 05-31-2006, 03:54 AM
  #9  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Ratickle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?

This is a clipped section from the current Ohio law and a similar proposal for Michigan. The CMI's and Shotgun's would not be legal under this rule.

No person shall operate or give permission for the operation of a powercraft on the waters in this state that is equipped with an altered muffler or muffler cutout, or operate or give permission for the operation of a powercraft on the waters in this state in any manner that bypassed or otherwise reduces or eliminates the effectiveness of any muffler or muffler system.
Ratickle is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
2 Trick Rick
General Boating Discussion
4
06-30-2006 07:05 AM
Waterfoul
General Boating Discussion
23
11-24-2004 10:38 AM
Milord
General Boating Discussion
0
04-26-2002 10:05 AM
Milord
General Boating Discussion
5
03-08-2002 01:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Quick Reply: Mufflers-Ohio, Michigan, ?


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.