HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
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HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Hi Guys,
Have an oil temp problem with HP 525. Oil temp climbs right to ~300, Shut motor down at this point, Oil cooler was cold to the touch. This happened before. Had my Mechanic change engine oil and Filter (No shavings in oil), Changed Oil Thermostat, checked oil cooler for obstruction on water side. Motor oil pressure and temp fine .(Mercury Certified)Mechanic tested boat at WOT with no problems. I ran the boat yesterday at less than WOT for 10 minutes and oil temp kept right on climbing.
Calling Mercury Racing for advice, motor still under warranty.
I think mechanic should check entire oil flow system on the motor for possible obstruction. Anybody else have this problem?
Thanks!
Mark
Have an oil temp problem with HP 525. Oil temp climbs right to ~300, Shut motor down at this point, Oil cooler was cold to the touch. This happened before. Had my Mechanic change engine oil and Filter (No shavings in oil), Changed Oil Thermostat, checked oil cooler for obstruction on water side. Motor oil pressure and temp fine .(Mercury Certified)Mechanic tested boat at WOT with no problems. I ran the boat yesterday at less than WOT for 10 minutes and oil temp kept right on climbing.
Calling Mercury Racing for advice, motor still under warranty.
I think mechanic should check entire oil flow system on the motor for possible obstruction. Anybody else have this problem?
Thanks!
Mark
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Buy a THERMO GUN with a Lazer point. Just point the lazer at where you want to check temp. You'll get a digital reading of the temp. That's what I did. My oil temp would read 300+ with the sensor located in the oil pan. With the gun it read 225. I know you can't always depend on gun readings but I took other readings with it, and it was within 20 degrees of true reading. At least you can get a ballpark reading if it is actually 300 degrees
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Originally Posted by MarkDonzi
Hi Guys,
Have an oil temp problem with HP 525. Oil temp climbs right to ~300, Shut motor down at this point, Oil cooler was cold to the touch. This happened before. Had my Mechanic change engine oil and Filter (No shavings in oil), Changed Oil Thermostat, checked oil cooler for obstruction on water side. Motor oil pressure and temp fine .(Mercury Certified)Mechanic tested boat at WOT with no problems. I ran the boat yesterday at less than WOT for 10 minutes and oil temp kept right on climbing.
Calling Mercury Racing for advice, motor still under warranty.
I think mechanic should check entire oil flow system on the motor for possible obstruction. Anybody else have this problem?
Thanks!
Mark
Have an oil temp problem with HP 525. Oil temp climbs right to ~300, Shut motor down at this point, Oil cooler was cold to the touch. This happened before. Had my Mechanic change engine oil and Filter (No shavings in oil), Changed Oil Thermostat, checked oil cooler for obstruction on water side. Motor oil pressure and temp fine .(Mercury Certified)Mechanic tested boat at WOT with no problems. I ran the boat yesterday at less than WOT for 10 minutes and oil temp kept right on climbing.
Calling Mercury Racing for advice, motor still under warranty.
I think mechanic should check entire oil flow system on the motor for possible obstruction. Anybody else have this problem?
Thanks!
Mark
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Originally Posted by MarkDonzi
(Mercury Certified)Mechanic tested boat at WOT with no problems.
Thanks!
Mark
Thanks!
Mark
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Suggestion... Have a ride w/ the mechanic ---- let him see it happen while you both are in the boat. I would also be on leaky headers. I have an '03 and replaced all 4 last winter....exxxxxpennnnnnsive compared to the E-Tops!
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Originally Posted by DRIVEN1
Where did you find to have the best price on new ones? I assume these were on a 525. Thanks
When "some" dealers buy their boats for staggered set-ups the engines come w/ the typical stock "turn-down" headers. When staggering a motor (or the center engine on triples), those headers don't work. They need the straight-back style (sorry for the lay terminology here). So, I found two pairs that way. Unfortunatly, the company asked me to keep their name confidential, as they were doing me a favor.
However, I did receive a call from Craig Berry, Innovation and a couple other folks (whom I can't remember off the top of my head) that have some laying around. Make sure you get 2005 or newer headers. Some people have the "older style" sport tubes laying around. Before 2005, I understand the headers had three welds inside the inner tubes - which, under salt water conditions, seem to let go fairly regularlly (which was the problem I had).
Normally, in my past experience, CMI always stands behind their product. However, in this instance, I was told by CMI that since Mercury put $$$ into their R&D, they can not deal, and they can only refer you to a retail dealer (which is nuts!).
Also, in conjunction to the R&D/retail issue, Mercury had the head bolt pattern changed so no other headers (other than these) will mount up to the 525/600EFI's, other than theirs. That's why Fred/Trick hasn't sold out of all of his, I would presume. We (Fred and I) tried to make it work, but couldn't get Mercury to budge on cutting the bolt patterns for us.
Hope this helps ~
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Originally Posted by Joe
When "some" dealers buy their boats for staggered set-ups the engines come w/ the typical stock "turn-down" headers. When staggering a motor (or the center engine on triples), those headers don't work. They need the straight-back style (sorry for the lay terminology here). So, I found two pairs that way. Unfortunatly, the company asked me to keep their name confidential, as they were doing me a favor.
However, I did receive a call from Craig Berry, Innovation and a couple other folks (whom I can't remember off the top of my head) that have some laying around. Make sure you get 2005 or newer headers. Some people have the "older style" sport tubes laying around. Before 2005, I understand the headers had three welds inside the inner tubes - which, under salt water conditions, seem to let go fairly regularlly (which was the problem I had).
Normally, in my past experience, CMI always stands behind their product. However, in this instance, I was told by CMI that since Mercury put $$$ into their R&D, they can not deal, and they can only refer you to a retail dealer (which is nuts!).
Also, in conjunction to the R&D/retail issue, Mercury had the head bolt pattern changed so no other headers (other than these) will mount up to the 525/600EFI's, other than theirs. That's why Fred/Trick hasn't sold out of all of his, I would presume. We (Fred and I) tried to make it work, but couldn't get Mercury to budge on cutting the bolt patterns for us.
Hope this helps ~
Joe
However, I did receive a call from Craig Berry, Innovation and a couple other folks (whom I can't remember off the top of my head) that have some laying around. Make sure you get 2005 or newer headers. Some people have the "older style" sport tubes laying around. Before 2005, I understand the headers had three welds inside the inner tubes - which, under salt water conditions, seem to let go fairly regularlly (which was the problem I had).
Normally, in my past experience, CMI always stands behind their product. However, in this instance, I was told by CMI that since Mercury put $$$ into their R&D, they can not deal, and they can only refer you to a retail dealer (which is nuts!).
Also, in conjunction to the R&D/retail issue, Mercury had the head bolt pattern changed so no other headers (other than these) will mount up to the 525/600EFI's, other than theirs. That's why Fred/Trick hasn't sold out of all of his, I would presume. We (Fred and I) tried to make it work, but couldn't get Mercury to budge on cutting the bolt patterns for us.
Hope this helps ~
Joe
The problem motor is a center motor on a 2005 47 Fountain. I wonder what Mercury dealer will give me the best deal if I have to buy new ones. Kind of nice of Mercury to have a monopoly on the that header. Mike
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Originally Posted by DRIVEN1
Thanks Joe,
The problem motor is a center motor on a 2005 47 Fountain. I wonder what Mercury dealer will give me the best deal if I have to buy new ones. Kind of nice of Mercury to have a monopoly on the that header. Mike
The problem motor is a center motor on a 2005 47 Fountain. I wonder what Mercury dealer will give me the best deal if I have to buy new ones. Kind of nice of Mercury to have a monopoly on the that header. Mike
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Re: HP 525 Oil Temp Problem, Again!
Originally Posted by Joe
Boy - I'd yell and scream w/ it being that new (especially being the newer style sport tubes). I remember how mad I was at the time... but, after a few good months of boating, when the boat's fixed, you'll forget all about it and shift your complaints back to either insurance or fuel prices! haha.
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