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Old 07-16-2006, 09:37 PM
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I have a choice of just going with the blocks I have. Salt water exposed for apprx 8 years. All and all for another $10K I can go with a new Dart block all new internals & pondering the thought of stroking it. Stan
Stan, Not sure if you had already considered this or not, but if you're thinking about going from short deck to tall deck blocks, then you'll need to think about getting new tailpipes to fit the existing holes in your transom. Also, the center to center engine clearance may be an issue as well.

If you stay with a short deck block, then a 565cid (4.25" stroke x 4.600" piston with a 6.385" rod) engine would probably be about your limit for cubic inches.
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Oops The 592 Hp Numbers Were Done In 95 And The650hp Was 2001 And It Was Built Too 510 Ci 2001, If You Want I Can See What Specs Are On The Board About The 598. Art
Art, thanks for the good info. Very interested in the 598 ci #'s.
What do you have for drives & props ?
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Stan, Not sure if you had already considered this or not, but if you're thinking about going from short deck to tall deck blocks, then you'll need to think about getting new tailpipes to fit the existing holes in your transom. Also, the center to center engine clearance may be an issue as well.

If you stay with a short deck block, then a 565cid (4.25" stroke x 4.600" piston with a 6.385" rod) engine would probably be about your limit for cubic inches.
Definetly staying with short deck. As you said with the tail pipe height, I'm not messing with the transom. Is 565 the max ci on a short deck ?
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4.375 stroke, 6.735" rods, 1.27"cd, dart 345 heads, used an eldebrock victor insted of dart intake, just did a comp and the eldelbrock makes more tq and cheaper, spend savings at Wilson manifolds blueprinting intake, BLP carb, and crane hyd roller will make 750hp at 5500, good luck ,gg
Already spent the coin for the Dart's and have been marinized. I went with the Dart 345 cc head's with the water passages coated as well. Checked with Dart & they do not offer the coating for the blocks which sucks. Any speacs on this cam & is this proven dyno specs ?
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Already spent the coin for the Dart's and have been marinized. I went with the Dart 345 cc head's with the water passages coated as well. Checked with Dart & they do not offer the coating for the blocks which sucks. Any speacs on this cam & is this proven dyno specs ?
Contact RMBuilder here on OSO.
He can spec/sell you the right cam for your application.
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With 345cc heads and if you are planning to keep the rpm around or under 6K, theh you need inches. I would consider a 4.375" stroke and either a 4.560 bore with OEM block or 4.600" with an after market. This would get you either a 572CID or a 582CID. Just had a customer with this 572 combo and OEM 990 heads make 680HP and 655#/ft of torque.
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With 345cc heads and if you are planning to keep the rpm around or under 6K, theh you need inches. I would consider a 4.375" stroke and either a 4.560 bore with OEM block or 4.600" with an after market. This would get you either a 572CID or a 582CID. Just had a customer with this 572 combo and OEM 990 heads make 680HP and 655#/ft of torque.
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This is pretty much what I'm after. Quite impressive getting the horse from the 990 heads. As far as a roller cam any suggestions on lift, duration,centline etc ? Would like to keep it under 700 horse. The SM exhaust I ordered are good up to 700 I believe.
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Stan once the engine combination has been settled on and an rpm range to run in along with some flow numbers off of the heads then a camshaft can be decided on. You've got alot of runner volume there so if it were me I would go as large as possible for sake of throttle response. A good hyd roller with the Morel Marine lifters would be an excellent choice or for a little more power go a tight lash solid roller with the pressure fed Morels.
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1/4" stroke and 345cc heads will leave alot of tq on the table unless your going to turn 6500+, did a 4.56x4.25 with a set of 325 i hade and didnt like it. I believe 310 with 2.25 valve on 4.25 stroke is the ticket for < 6000rpm.
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my heads were thr 310 with the 510 ci the 598 I will check Tuesday going to pick up msd box my died after 10 11yrs so I will see what specs I can get on the 598ci motor then hope to go on a test run on Wednesday put with my old steering we just had to put back in the new stuff missing parts so I ant wait en no more I have been waiting to try out my 2'' shortie on the drive so we put back the old stuff until new stuff all comes in, art
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