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Old 01-05-2007, 09:18 AM
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I'm looking at a number of boats. Generally they have 502's or 500 efi's. The 500 efi's are sure nice. But if I find one with 200 hrs plus, it won't be long before top end needs to be re-done.
If can can look at a simaler boat w/ 502's, price diff may be 10-15k less (twins). What I'm wondering, if I bot a boat w/ 502's & did an immediate re-build close to 500efi specs. I may have same coin invested, and have fresh motors from top to bottom? I realize need new exhaust also, and they won't be blue. Coin toss? thanks.....Dave
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I'm looking at a number of boats. Generally they have 502's or 500 efi's. The 500 efi's are sure nice. But if I find one with 200 hrs plus, it won't be long before top end needs to be re-done.
If can can look at a simaler boat w/ 502's, price diff may be 10-15k less (twins). What I'm wondering, if I bot a boat w/ 502's & did an immediate re-build close to 500efi specs. I may have same coin invested, and have fresh motors from top to bottom? I realize need new exhaust also, and they won't be blue. Coin toss? thanks.....Dave
I would buy the boat with the power you want now. Why get a new boat ( to you) and then start wrenching on it ? To do those 502s right you will give back any savings and then some,plus run the risk of something not right with the rebuild.Also i feel factory unmolested 500efis will have better resale later than warmed up 502s.If you can try to find low hour 500efi engines, you will pay more up front but i think you will be better off in the long run. Just my opinion, good luck and happy boat hunting.
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It really depends on what type and size boat you are looking at if you should buy it with blue or black motors. Some boats, right or wrong have a perceived value ONLY with blue motors, even though their speed is not that different with the black motors. Thats why you are seeing such a large price difference between the two.

I remember seeing a 353 Formula several years ago with 502 Mags in it. That boat sat for at least 2 years at a bargin price only because the boat didn't have blue motors in it. It was in perfect shape, and only gave away a few mph. The original owner saved a lot by getting it new with the 502's, but then he couldn't give it away.

I'd buy the boat with the 500 EFI's. Have the top end redone,(about $1K for the 2 motors) and go boating. At 200 hours there should be no need to redo anything but the heads, and even that depends on how hard the boat was run. Saving that $15K sounds nice, but by the time that you have built the 502's into 500 EFI's,(cam/intake/exhaust etc) you will have spent that much, and you will probably never see that money that you spent out of the boat.
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I agree with Duke. You NEED the blue motors!!!
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It all depends on what your plan is. I tend to buy toys and keep them til they die so the black motors would be fine with me. It's probably cold in Michgan right now, so you have a few months for the upgrades if you really want them. I think you should just buy the boat you like at the price that makes you happy. If a boat isn't moving because it doesn't have blue motors, then that sounds like a better deal for you. If you plan on selling relatively soon, go blue.

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Blue is always better than Black. Blue will be the good honest hard working choice for my money. Jas
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Go Blue and I dont mean MIchigan!
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Default Re: used 500efi vs 502/496 & upgrade now

Originally Posted by BL6
I'm looking at a number of boats. Generally they have 502's or 500 efi's. The 500 efi's are sure nice. But if I find one with 200 hrs plus, it won't be long before top end needs to be re-done.
If can can look at a simaler boat w/ 502's, price diff may be 10-15k less (twins). What I'm wondering, if I bot a boat w/ 502's & did an immediate re-build close to 500efi specs. I may have same coin invested, and have fresh motors from top to bottom? I realize need new exhaust also, and they won't be blue. Coin toss? thanks.....Dave
If you buy black 502s with a couple hundred hours there is an engine builder in your state with a nice upgrade kit. Tyler Crockett can freshen the heads, put in a new valvetrain, and put on performance exhaust for about 7-8K per motor. The end result will have power specs similar to the HP500 with a new top end and another 300 hours of engine life. There are many ways to buy reliable performance. Engine paint is inexpensive.
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You guys are absolutely right about resale, and the blues are so pretty. I'm planning on keeping this boat for a while, but thats what I thought about all my other boats, cars, houses, etc.
I will lean towards 500 efi's unless I spot a boat perfect in every other way, then I can take the 502's over to Tyler Crocket & have him upgrade towards similar specs.
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