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02-02-2008, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Palm Bay FL
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1989 WELLCRAFT SCARAB EXCEL 28'
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Repowered Scarab, need prop help
I recently repowered my 1989 Scarab Excel 28', weight 4600 lbs. ,new bravo 1 2nd design 1.5:1, bottom rough (someone bottom algae painted it) .
removed tired 454, removed vengeance 14" x 19p prop.
Installed 415hp 502 w/hp manifolds, edelbrock perfomer intake and 750 cfm carb.
Thinking of using a Revolution 4 4 blade prop.
Most local guys here reccomend a 14 5/8 21p
Wellcraft reccomends a 14 5/8 23p
Mercruiser site calculates a 14 5/8 19p
Any expert advice for a good starting point pitch?
I'm sure not gonna start with that old 14" x 19.
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02-03-2008, 08:43 AM
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i go with 23 then wot and check your rpms !that will give you base line
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02-03-2008, 05:15 PM
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Location: columbus,ohio
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1990 Baja 280ES t-454s and a "beater" 1980 four winns 20ft santera cuddy
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I would agree with Bob , go with the stiffest one ya got and see where your at
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02-04-2008, 10:19 AM
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Location: Brandon, MS
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1989 34' Scarab III
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I have 21's on mine with stock 454's right now and a much heavier boat. I would say that motor combination would spin a 23p easy
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02-04-2008, 12:03 PM
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I can't comment on the 4 bladed prop.
I've got a 385 hp 23.5' boat, ~4000 lbs.
It's proped with a 3 blade 23P Mirage plus.
The OEM prop was 23P also.
I'd probably start with the equiv of a 23P prop and go from there based on RPM. Make sure your tach is properly calibrated.
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02-04-2008, 06:58 PM
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Location: Roch, NY
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89 Scarab Excel
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Stock 89 excel came with 365 hp and 23" mirage. That combination runs about 60 MPH at 4900 rpm.
With the add HP, I would look at a 24 bravo 1. Remember, it's a heavy boat and requires bow lift, not stern lift.
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02-04-2008, 10:11 PM
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Location: San Diego
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Advantage 28ft Sport Cat w/ pair of 8's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarab28
Stock 89 excel came with 365 hp and 23" mirage. That combination runs about 60 MPH at 4900 rpm.
With the add HP, I would look at a 24 bravo 1. Remember, it's a heavy boat and requires bow lift, not stern lift.
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I'm going to agree with Scarab 28. Bravo should give some good bow lift.
Darrell.
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02-05-2008, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Omaha, Nebraska. Boat on the Mighty Mo! Longest river in the USA!
Posts: 1,397
Pachanga-27 Twin 502s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redscarab
I recently repowered my 1989 Scarab Excel 28', weight 4600 lbs. ,new bravo 1 2nd design 1.5:1, bottom rough (someone bottom algae painted it) .
removed tired 454, removed vengeance 14" x 19p prop.
Installed 415hp 502 w/hp manifolds, edelbrock perfomer intake and 750 cfm carb.
Thinking of using a Revolution 4 4 blade prop.
Most local guys here reccomend a 14 5/8 21p
Wellcraft reccomends a 14 5/8 23p
Mercruiser site calculates a 14 5/8 19p
Any expert advice for a good starting point pitch?
I'm sure not gonna start with that old 14" x 19.
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You increase in HP was under 100HP. I will have a hard time believing with that heavy of a boat you can increase the prop from a 19P to a 24P or 25P. I would get a test prop from BBLADES as he suggested. He got me dialed in
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02-05-2008, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Lampertheim Germany
Posts: 66
1998 Active Thunder 37, 1988 Wellcraft Scarab
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Hi redscarab
i have a 28 Scarab Excel from 89 too.( 502 EFI 415 Hp EMI Exhaust))
A three Blade was very bad in overall performance
I had a Labsinished Bravo 24Pitch with 63 Mls/4800Rpm
After a EFI upgrade from Tyler Crocket Marine, (Aircleaner,EFI Progamm, a little more
Fuelpressure, recomended in a older Hot Boat for the 502EFI)
Now I have a 26 Bravo from B Blades with changed Rakeangle to bring the Boat out of the water, the made a labfinish too.
The Boat is driving totaly diferent than before, itīs goes now over the waves not thru, thatīs much smoother and faster.
Now 67-69 Mls at 4700-4800 on the River (Rhein) no Saltwater where i think the Boats ar always faster.
I can Recomend a 4 Blade Bravo and BBlades withe the Rakeangle and Labfinish
Good Luck
Hans
Germany
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02-05-2008, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Palm Bay FL
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1989 WELLCRAFT SCARAB EXCEL 28'
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Thank all of you for your advice, I will put it to good use.
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